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Old 01-14-2024, 11:30 AM
 
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we've got enough foreigners driving in Britain who dont know their left from their right.
What's the Uk accident ratio between stupid foreign drivers and stupid home grown drunk drivers ?
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Old 01-14-2024, 11:37 AM
 
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I have never driven in the UK and never would for too many reasons to mention. Except maybe on the Motorways. The UK Motorways look like they would be fun to drive on. The rest of the roads in the UK, not so much.
The Motorways are very good. The streets are narrow even in central London and they were never built square grid North to South or East to West which can make it confusing to navigate unless you have GPS. Drivers are generally courteous and very good.

In France drivers spend a lot of time yelling at each other when traffic is heavy
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Old 01-14-2024, 08:04 PM
 
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What's the Uk accident ratio between stupid foreign drivers and stupid home grown drunk drivers ?
From the YouTube videos I watch I would say pretty high. In the comments I notice they always blame foreign drivers. But it's hard to believe that all of this is just foreign drivers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKJcwT44n7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n47fAzjnZ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7W8bO5_hg
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Old 01-15-2024, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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US Airmen Keiran Lee Bogstad who is based at Croughton is set to appear before Northampton Crown Court on the
30th September 2024 in relation to charges of the multiple rape of a British citizen.

US military serviceman denies three counts of raping a UK citizen at an RAF base and faces trial next year - Daily Mail
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:17 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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As for the Issac Calderon case, it looks like he will be extradited and face British courts after not appearing in previous court hearing, and the US FBI are now involved and looking to help extradite him back to the UK.

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At a glance -

* A US citizen left the UK after being charged with dangerous driving

* Issac Calderon, 22, is accused of being responsible for a car crash which left a healthcare worker temporarily unable to walk

* Mr Calderon's father has now started an online fundraiser asking for donations to pay legal fees

* He said his family had been contacted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) about "extraditing" his son


West Mercia Police previously told Ms Donowho the 22-year-old had been carrying out employment "associated with the secret service" and working on matters "that might come under the Official Secrets Act".

But Mr Calderon was not a government asset and had not been removed from the UK under diplomatic immunity, his father insisted.

"We have been contacted by the FBI, they are talking about extraditing him," the crowdfunding page read.

"We do not have funds for hiring international legal counsel. We are a single-income family and not a family of means."

Mr Calderon has been described by the US embassy as a "private citizen", with police saying he had been in the UK on a work visa.

Radd Seiger, Ms Donowho's spokesperson, urged Mr Calderon to do the right thing and return to the UK without any further delay.

FBI contacts US suspect who left UK after crash - BBC News
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:37 AM
 
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US Airmen Keiran Lee Bogstad who is based at Croughton is set to appear before Northampton Crown Court on the
30th September 2024 in relation to charges of the multiple rape of a British citizen.

US military serviceman denies three counts of raping a UK citizen at an RAF base and faces trial next year - Daily Mail
How is this related to the Dunn case? It's not about Dunn. It's not even about dangerous driving by Americans.

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The thread is entitled 'US Woman drives wrong way down road killing teen in Northamptonshire and then claims Diplomatic Immunity', and is in relation to the Dunn case and other similar cases.
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Old 01-15-2024, 06:59 AM
 
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How is this related to the Dunn case? It's not about Dunn. It's not even about dangerous driving by Americans.
You are on ignore and I don't generally even look at any posts on permanent ignore.

I will however make one exception and simply state, that the Dunn case involved an accident outside the controversial Croughton spy base, and the base is now involved in rape allegations.

As for the Issac Calderon case it is one of a number related to the driving of US service personnel and their dependants.

Coroners have already flagged the issue in relation to previous cases and will no doubt bring the issue up at the Harry Dunn Case later this year when the Coroner will issue a full report with recommendations.

This is also against a backdrop of increasing pressure for a full Parliamentary Inquiry in to the Dunn case and similar cases, and there have been calls for an Inquiry in to Crougton itself in the past.

As for UK driving laws, we are more than capable of deciding and enforcing such laws, and have specialist accident investigation officers, prosecution lawyers and a well respected legal system in relation to such issues.

I am therefore not interested in your posts regarding our laws which you clearly have no respect for, just as you have no respect for the British citizens who have lost their lives.

If you can not accept or adhere to out laws or our Courts, then you really should not be in the country in the first place.

I therefore don't wish to engage in any more pointless dialogue, and will not be bothering to look at your posts ever again, as they are now on ignore for good reason, and you should respect this fact.

I have replied out of common courtesy but generally do not open posts on ignore, and would ask that you just respect my wishes and not mention me or my posts ever again - Thank you.

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Old 01-15-2024, 07:20 AM
 
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You are on ignore and I don't generally even look at any posts on permanent ignore.

I will however make one exception and simply state, that the Dunn case involved an accident outside the controversial Croughton spy base, and the base is now involved in rape allegations.

As for the Issac Calderon case it is one of a number related to the driving of US service personnel and their dependants.

Coroners have already flagged the issue in relation to previous cases and will no doubt bring the issue up at the Harry Dunn Case later this year when the Coroner will issue a full report with recommendations.

This is also against a backdrop of increasing pressure for a full Parliamentary Inquiry in to the Dunn case and similar cases, and there have been calls for an Inquiry in to Crougton itself in the past.

As for UK driving laws, we are more than capable of deciding and enforcing such laws, and have specialist accident investigation officers, prosecution lawyers and a well respected legal system in relation to such issues.

I am therefore not interested in your posts regarding our laws which you clearly have no respect for, just as you have no respect for the British citizens who have lost their lives.

If you can not accept or adhere to out laws or our Courts, then you really should not be in the country in the first place.

I therefore don't wish to engage in any more pointless dialogue, and will not be bothering to look at your posts ever again, as they are now on ignore for good reason, and you should respect this fact.

I have replied out of common courtesy but generally do not open posts on ignore, and would ask that you just respect my wishes and not mention me or my posts ever again - Thank you.
Okay, so I take that that you don't have an answer as to how Keiran Lee Bogstad is related to the Dunn case. I just wanted to clarify that. Thanks for the long non-response.
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Old 01-15-2024, 04:07 PM
 
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From the YouTube videos I watch I would say pretty high. In the comments I notice they always blame foreign drivers. But it's hard to believe that all of this is just foreign drivers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKJcwT44n7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n47fAzjnZ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7W8bO5_hg
If you look real closely at those cars you'll see a bumper stickers that say "stupid foreign driver behind wheel"
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Old 01-15-2024, 04:17 PM
 
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Not to defend Bogstad's behaviour but worth mentioning that during my service time in the British Army there was one rape case in Singapore when a British serviceman was charged with the rape of a Chines girl and two cases of rape during my time in Aldershot.
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