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Old 03-16-2014, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
Here is the 500mb depiction of the cold shot coming in the 6-10 day period




Does anyone see even Spring showing up for the eastern 2/3rds anytime soon? Not me, nor do I see this pattern changing. I think we will be stuck in it for the next 23094584309845 months.
If you're right about this, I will be relocating down to North Texas in a Heartbeat, and I am sure all the climate change alarmist nuts will be claiming that this is the new normal, which would really be a pain in the $%$^.
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Old 03-16-2014, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Thanks Dan for chiming in. I like the Top down approach and agree which I think nei was saying too that details and factors like radiational cooling, solar warming, ect play a role in surface temps as well but does not control the whole flow or temps at the mid level..

Current maps.

A look at the 850mb temps and metars on left. Pink = freezing line at 4500'. Temps and Radar on right.
Very warm at the mid levels down south this evening.

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Old 03-16-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Happening now... Harrisonburg, Virginia

https://twitter.com/WHSVChanning/sta...59139435606016

Aldie, Virginia

twitter.com/RandyBenn/status/445379247537147904



NWS Raised the totals based on current Observations! Higher near DC, lower south.



Fairfax Virginia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz9_u26ifGY

Rockville, Maryland



twitter.com/weatherchannel/status/445384390785650688
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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From WTOP Radio in DC tonight

twitter.com/MarkVogan/status/445388281266855936




Live D.C webcam: U.S. Senate: Visitor Center Home > Capitol Camera

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Old 03-16-2014, 09:13 PM
 
Location: E ND & NW MN
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Just nice snows around DC/Baltimore this late evening. In talking about 850 mb/surface.... Surface heating can impact of course 925 mb temps but in most locations 850 mb level is well above the immediate boundary layer and any influences are quite weak. As been stated it would act to tighten the temp gradient in the very lowest levels.

Of course in the higher elevations, high plains, you are above 850 mb level so you look at more 700 mb temps....
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Just nice snows around DC/Baltimore this late evening. In talking about 850 mb/surface.... Surface heating can impact of course 925 mb temps but in most locations 850 mb level is well above the immediate boundary layer and any influences are quite weak. As been stated it would act to tighten the temp gradient in the very lowest levels.

Of course in the higher elevations, high plains, you are above 850 mb level so you look at more 700 mb temps....
Something I didn't touch on in my earlier posts to nei is the 925 level.. Hard to do in 1 or 2 posts. Thanks for clarifying and its nice to retouch and reconfirm a subject I thought I was familiar with. Learned a few extra points as well. So I appreciate the conversation between all of us. It's good to get the correct info out in a public forum as well.

Another thing I didn't touch on is being on a mountain at 6000' might be considered "surface" there at that point but it's technically a little above the 850mb level so like you said look at the 700mb level to see what the pattern/flow/temps will bring. Top down.

Anyway... A look at the current Map.. March 17, 2014. Not even Long Island getting some action.

Seeing some reports of 4-8", school/Business/Flight delays in the Mid Atlantic. I'll post some pics and snow total map later..



Some earlier reports not updated yet.

SALISBURY, MD
3:40 AM on 03/17/2014
5.0 inches

BWI AIRPORT, MD
1:00 AM on 03/17/2014
5.8 inches

1 WNW WASHINGTON, DC
2:30 AM on 03/17/2014
5.8 inches






2 NE CATONSVILLE, MD
3:40 AM on 03/17/2014
7.0 inches






3 NW GERMANTOWN, MD
2:05 AM on 03/17/2014
8.0 inches






1 ENE GAITHERSBURG, MD
2:30 AM on 03/17/2014
8.0 inches






COLLEGE PARK, MD
2:40 AM on 03/17/2014
6.5 inches

CAPE MAY, NJ
1:06 AM on 03/17/2014
6.0 inches
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Old 03-17-2014, 04:57 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Just measured 6 in/15cm of snow on the ground here. Still coming down.
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:26 AM
 
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^^

Nice

Everyone interested in why this winter/early spring has been so cold for so much of the country and what is in store for us later this spring and summer needs to watch this 30 minute very technical video (lots of graphics)

Weather Briefing 3.11.14 - WSI Media


I for one will be disappointed if summer turns out like this
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Some select snow reports currently available.



D.C



Ashburn near D.C

twitter.com/ameliasegal/status/445525164634419200



Landsdown Virginia

twitter.com/capitalweather/status/445529361656340480



Excellent forecast by NWS Mt Holly buying into the mesoscale banding getting into NJ.

A look at NWS Mt Holly snow forecast from 8pm yesterday as the snows push off the coast now. Totals got bumped up again in the south end.

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Old 03-17-2014, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Still waiting for my first cm here. Below -20°C at 850 hPa in mid-March at 42-43N (lake Erie) would be impressive.


Couple videos of a EF1 tornado from earlier this month (western France):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1432038853700955


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JllRgLvpsXo

500 hPa temps then:

Tornade à Luçon (85) le 3 mars 2014 - Tornade EF1 en Vendée, région Pays-de-la-Loire - Tornade F1 en France - KERAUNOS



Current temp map for France, ranging from 43°F in the North to 80°F in the South:

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