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Old 04-26-2016, 08:08 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Don't read the Daily Mail then?
lol, I try not to, I can see their stupid headlines on show on the news stands though! :-D

 
Old 04-26-2016, 08:16 AM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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My last May, June and July were cooler than normal. The beginning of summer was the coldest in 50 years, so if someone deserves an above normal summer it's me.
You had endless good summers between 2007-2012, while we suffered.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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Wintry showers again this afternoon. It's just 2-minute flurries that fall in the afternoons when the ground is too warm for them to stick though, so they don't amount to anything. If only we could just save them all up and have it snow for an hour first thing in the morning when it's frosty then this would be perfect.

Hard too to believe that this is still more snow than some parts of the soufffffff often see all winter
who said oceanic climates were boring and predictable ?
 
Old 04-26-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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My last May, June and July were cooler than normal. The beginning of summer was the coldest in 50 years, so if someone deserves an above normal summer it's me.
Yeah, and? 2014, 2013, 2011, 2010 were all warm or hot in Turku, right? 2010 was scorching - so you've had more than your fair share.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Originally Posted by B87 View Post
You had endless good summers between 2007-2012, while we suffered.
2009 and 2012 were below average.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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and perhaps George has been in my firing line a bit, !
Some Euros especially in the North like you English lads have a very warm bias. If I even dare to post a chart or model showing cold whether it be winter, spring, summer or fall, you jump on me saying that I'm trying to rile you up. Lol... And it's not like I don't post charts when Europe is torching. Go back to my July posts, and to my December and see for yourself. This past February all the models were calling for a SSW event that would impact Europe. It didn't impact the Northwest but it sure hit Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. And unlike what Flaming says, I don't go and sniff out the "worst case scenario" charts for Europe. I post what ever the met guess tweet whom I follow whether or not they happen to be extreme. I go to those same guys all the time (Cohen, Clark, Bastardi, Vogan, Maue, Ventrice and his Weather Co....). What they post. I regurgitate here. It's not like I don't post charts when Chicago is getting **** weather like it's going to this week.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 08:30 AM
B87
 
Location: Surrey/London
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2009 and 2012 were below average.
Well in the 2007-2012 period. All of them were cloudier than normal.

2007: well below average
2008: below average
2009: slightly above average
2010: above average
2011: well below average
2012: below average

Just had a shower of snow/graupel that lasted about 20 seconds, though the temperature is 8c.

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Old 04-26-2016, 08:45 AM
 
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Lets see who had more positive or negative anomalies during the summer months since 2009 using this tool from NASA
Land Surface Temperature Anomaly [Day] (1 month) | NASA


2009 summer






2010 summer





2011 summer





2012 summer





2013 summer






2014 summer






2015 summer



 
Old 04-26-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Originally Posted by chicagogeorge View Post
Some Euros especially in the North like you English lads have a very warm bias. If I even dare to post a chart or model showing cold whether it be winter, spring, summer or fall, you jump on me saying that I'm trying to rile you up. Lol... And it's not like I don't post charts when Europe is torching. Go back to my July posts, and to my December and see for yourself. This past February all the models were calling for a SSW event that would impact Europe. It didn't impact the Northwest but it sure hit Scandinavia and Eastern Europe. And unlike what Flaming says, I don't go and sniff out the "worst case scenario" charts for Europe. I post what ever the met guess tweet whom I follow whether or not they happen to be extreme. I go to those same guys all the time (Cohen, Clark, Bastardi, Vogan, Maue, Ventrice and his Weather Co....). What they post. I regurgitate here. It's not like I don't post charts when Chicago is getting **** weather like it's going to this week.
What I am trying to say though George is that it hasn't 'impacted' Europe, it seems to me that you are 'suggesting' that something 'major' is going to happen weatherwise and the Daily Mail keep warning of a frozen hell! All I am saying is there is nothing unusual happening, its a spell of weather that's cooler than average, it is not impacting anything in the country (I admit I don't know about Germany or Scandinavia), sometimes there are warmer than average periods, sometimes colder than average, sometimes wetter or warmer and sometimes simply 'average' too, I appreciate the forecasts but you do seem to have 'sensationalised' them somewhat if not to the same degree as the Daily Mail.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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^^

What makes you think I was insinuating something "major"? It's a cold spell, with 5C+ negative anomalies for many. If it was a 5C+ warm spell, some of you Northern Europeans would be drooling right now....


GEFS out with the 6-10





12-16 day it looks close to normal


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