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I guess we just have differing opinions on the matter.
Opinion doesn't count for anything though. Winter is the cold period when temperatures plateau, or at least have a rate of change much lower to that of spring or autumn.
Opinion doesn't count for anything though. Winter is the cold period when temperatures plateau, or at least have a rate of change much lower to that of spring or autumn.
The only problem is is that yes, there is a preset definition of winter. But that still doesn't change the fact that different people have a different criteria to what constitutes a winter. Does winter exist in Sydney? Of course. The problem is, to ME it's not a "real" winter. I don't understand why no one complains when summer lovers exclaim that a place like Iceland doesn't have real summers but everyone jumps on people like Shalop for saying no city in Australia has a real winter. I don't get the double standard. It's not hard to see why someone who loves cold and snow wouldn't think Sydney has a real winter.
The only problem is is that yes, there is a preset definition of winter. But that still doesn't change the fact that different people have a different criteria to what constitutes a winter. Does winter exist in Sydney? Of course. The problem is, to ME it's not a "real" winter. I don't understand why no one complains when summer lovers exclaim that a place like Iceland doesn't have real summers but everyone jumps on people like Shalop for saying no city in Australia has a real winter. I don't get the double standard. It's not hard to see why someone who loves cold and snow wouldn't think Sydney has a real winter.
It doesn't matter though. I'm sure spring in northern Alaska wouldn't be familiar to me, but I have no problem calling it a real spring.
It doesn't matter though. I'm sure spring in northern Alaska wouldn't be familiar to me, but I have no problem calling it a real spring.
Eh, good point I suppose. I still wouldn't call a winter in Sydney a real winter though. At least not to me.
And my problem arises from the fact that the people who jumped all over Shalop for his winter criteria are the same ones who would say that Barrow or Iqaluit doesn't have real summers. It doesn't benefit anyone to be hypocritical.
Opinion doesn't count for anything though. Winter is the cold period when temperatures plateau, or at least have a rate of change much lower to that of spring or autumn.
From someone living in the Upper Midwest of the U.S.... it is all relative. Compared to where I live....none of the cities in Australia has a real winter. But just comparing the cities by themselves on the Australian continent Canberra comes closest.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a 21C high in winter, it's just that it isn't really winter if it gets the same temps as summer. I'm certainly not saying it has the same climate as Scotland, just that it has the same rather blurred summer/winter distinction, temperature-wise.
A 21C high in the winter is regarded as warm, and is not very common.
You'd make a point if 21C highs were common here in both winter and summer - When they are NOT.
When I was in Sydney in July, I could still wear shorts and t-shirts, same with Melbourne though a little nippy in the mornings. So no.
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