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View Poll Results: Do you think any major city in Australia has a real winter?
Yes 41 42.71%
No 55 57.29%
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Shrewsbury UK
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At least Sydney is persistently warmer than Melbourne in the summer. Sydney gets 40C heatwaves (not just 35C ones). They're just more shortlived and not as prolonged as Melbourne's. Why is having a high of 21C in June and December a bad thing to you? Even California experiences this. And this has nothing on Scotland experiencing 10C highs in summer and winter. At least we go down to 21C rather than 17C, which is a bit wintry for summer weather.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a 21C high in winter, it's just that it isn't really winter if it gets the same temps as summer. I'm certainly not saying it has the same climate as Scotland, just that it has the same rather blurred summer/winter distinction, temperature-wise.

As for the other post regarding precipitation peaks: those continental climates that have a summer rainfall maximum almost always have a reliably cold winter, so the precipitation doesn't come into it. Adelaide doesn't have more of a winter than Hobart, just a different kind. Still a recognizably different season from summer, for a different reason.
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Old 09-04-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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From an Australian perspective - definitely.

Melbourne, where I hail from, has usually long cold, cloudy and wet - totals not overly high (Sydney records much higher rainfall) but an high number of rain or more appropriately "drizzle" days gives that false impression - winters and the howling northerly - that transports cold air from inland areas - is freezing which in contrast in summer is searing hot.

Sydney where I live now - yep especially when westerlies blow - similar to Melbourne's northerly but with less cloud and showers/rain. North-westerlies usually bring high temperatures but 40C is very rarely exceeded on the coast due to the nor-easter sea breezes or "gales" in spring/early summer. Only one instance of an heatwave (days exceeding 38C+ on more than three consecutive days on the coast that is) has been recorded in nearly 160 years and that was in January 1960.

Brisbane - below 20C is cold and less than 15C is freezing.

Darwin - below 25C is regarded as cool and 20C below is freezing.

Perth - very cold during winter nights, recent years have seen record breaking minimums (0 to 1C).

Canberra - definitely! Minimums regularly drop below freezing (0C) with heavy frosts.
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Old 09-05-2015, 02:46 AM
 
Location: Murray River, Riverland, South Australia
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Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide and Canberra have a real winter. The rest THINK they have a winter.

Adelaide's winters are not at all different to Melbourne's, despite insinuations contrary to that fact here. Summer is very different between the two cities.
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Old 09-05-2015, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide and Canberra have a real winter. The rest THINK they have a winter.

Adelaide's winters are not at all different to Melbourne's, despite insinuations contrary to that fact here. Summer is very different between the two cities.
Totally wrong but I'm not going over this ad nauseam
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Old 09-05-2015, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Murray River, Riverland, South Australia
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Totally wrong but I'm not going over this ad nauseam
Don't worry I couldn't care less about your opinion
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Old 09-05-2015, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Eastern Sydney, Australia
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Don't worry I couldn't care less about your opinion
Laughing at you
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Murray River, Riverland, South Australia
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Laughing at you
Go for it. You are about as important to me as beef to a vegan. Enjoy your icy 20c+ westerlies
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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None of them have a "Real Winter" in my opinion.

That being said, I definitely dislike Melbourne's winters because they have averages cold enough for some snow but they never get any
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:40 AM
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Location: Surrey/London
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When in first got off the plane in Brisbane, it was 6c! A major shock coming from a London August, with a stop in Singapore.
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Old 09-05-2015, 06:54 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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Anywhere that has a marked difference in temperatures at different times of the year, has seasons. So just because somewhere may have mild or even warm winters compared to somewhere else it doesn't mean it doesn't have a winter. It is all relative, if winter temperatures are considerably less than summer temperatures then of course it has a winter, winter does not just mean frost & snow...
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