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Old 03-31-2016, 07:50 AM
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none of those suggest unemployed or uneducated, maybe lower income on average but that's not the same thing. And not all are from that demographic. Sanders still got 39% of those earning $100k/year in the primary:

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Old 03-31-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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That's all well and good, but the US not only has the highest levels of income inequality in the OECD but the third highest poverty rate - standing at around 25%, just behind Turkey and Romania and in excess of Mexico. That is an appalling figure for an apparently wealthy, first-world nation, is it not? Americans certainly earn more, but they also pay significantly more for education and healthcare.

As for the rest of your post - I'm not sure what to say. 'The American Dream' doesn't exist.
The "American Dream" is the opportunity to better one's life through hard work and innovation.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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The "American Dream" is the opportunity to better one's life through hard work and innovation.
And it's nothing but claptrap.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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And it's nothing but claptrap.
At least we agree on something. America has the lowest levels of social mobility in the OECD - in other words, a person born poor in America is much more likely to stay poor until the day they die, compared to somewhere like the Netherlands or Finland, where people have a greater chance of escaping poverty.

So much for 'hard work and innovation'.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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And it's nothing but claptrap.
It depends where you live and your financial circumstances, if you are wealthy in America you are more likely to get value for your money. It is easier to become wealthy in America though.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:56 AM
 
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none of those suggest unemployed or uneducated, maybe lower income on average but that's not the same thing. And not all are from that demographic. Sanders still got 39% of those earning $100k/year in the primary:

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You've got to be kidding. Your polling data shows that Sanders wins with highschool dropouts and those lacking a college degree while losing among those with college or graduate level education. It also shows that Sanders wins with those making 50,000/year or less while losing to clinton among those making more...hence my generalization of "underearning and uneducated"

And remember, this is among only those who identify as Democrats...
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:57 AM
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That's all well and good, but the US not only has the highest levels of income inequality in the OECD but the third highest poverty rate - standing at around 25%, just behind Turkey and Romania and in excess of Mexico. That is an appalling figure for an apparently wealthy, first-world nation, is it not? Americans certainly earn more, but they also pay significantly more for education and healthcare.
Sure there's a higher poverty rate in the US than most western European countries, but Mexcio? Mexican per capita income is one-third of the US and also has high income inequality combined with poorer infrastructure and institutions. There's no way it could have a lower poverty rate unless most of the thershold for poverty is very different.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:59 AM
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You've got to be kidding. Your polling data shows that Sanders wins with highschool dropouts and those lacking a college degree while losing among those with college or graduate level education.
Yes, I can read the polling data.

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It also shows that Sanders wins with those making 50,000/year or less while losing to clinton among those making more...hence my generalization of "underearning and uneducated"
You said unemployed not underearning.
 
Old 03-31-2016, 07:59 AM
 
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Sure there's a higher poverty rate in the US than most western European countries, but Mexcio? Mexican per capita income is one-third of the US and also has high income inequality combined with poorer infrastructure and institutions. There's no way it could have a lower poverty rate unless most of the thershold for poverty is very different.
That's because the "poverty line" in the U.S is higher than the per-capita income of mexico
 
Old 03-31-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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The "American Dream" may have existed in the 1950s, but now it's just a talking point for moronic American exceptionalists that think the US is the only country with "freedom".
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