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Old 11-13-2012, 12:55 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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NYC's Central Park can be like that as well. I've seen days in mid winter when it's 30 F at the edge of th city, then you come up from the subway near Central Park and people are carring their jackets and it's like 45 - 50 F.

Yeah right, I don't think its that much of a difference.

 
Old 11-13-2012, 01:04 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Highest low in Victoria is 1.4ºc.

Highest is -3c here. I fail to see how it could get any higher than that, we are too far north.

Latest frost looks to be December, parts of the UK have not seen a frost at all in some years.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I think Central London may not receive frost in some winters until January.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Laurentia
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6 F is a mild winter! I run to Florida when it gets below 40 F here becasue I can't take it - lol.

You're are much tougher than me my freind....
I'm the first to admit that I'm tougher (). But seriously, to my mind 6F is mild for a winter minimum. For goodness sake, you can't even get a couple of nights below zero in an average winter (to have a complete winter some bitter cold is required IMO). Now, if you were in a maritime climate that doesn't have much variation, then 6F might go with a cold winter, but of course you're not in one.

I'm not saying that 6F isn't cold - it is, especially for the warm weather fans such as yourself. But for an absolute minimum it's mild. If your average low was 6F, then of course you wouldn't have a mild winter.

I'd also like to point out that my post about mild winters also applied to the others who recorded much warmer minima.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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I think Central London may not receive frost in some winters until January.
Yes & some years none at all... Similar to here where I don't generally record an air frost until around the end of December, or even later. Last winter I didn't record an air frost until February & my last air frost was also in February...
 
Old 11-13-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Yes Southampton's figures are from Southampton airport, which is actually in Eastleigh some miles away from the city in the outer suburbs...

There are a couple of weather stations in Southampton itself (Southampton Weather Centre & Southampton Oceanography Centre) but the Met Office don't like using those ones for data made available on most websites

An example of the difference in temperatures, last night Southampton airport dropped to -2C & the Oceanography Centre dropped to just 3C!
That happens here a lot as well. Atlantic City Airport is at least 10 to 15 miles inland from Atlantic City in a place known for radiational cooling (the NJ Pine Barrens). The temp there is always hotter during the day and cooler at night than AC proper.

In Philadelphia, we have yet to record a frost. The airport location outside the city got down to 32f, but not the city itself.

The same happens a lot all over the US. Charleston, SC airport is north and west by at least 11 miles from Charleston Battery, and 15 miles from the coastal islands.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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Yes & some years none at all... Similar to here where I don't generally record an air frost until around the end of December, or even later. Last winter I didn't record an air frost until February & my last air frost was also in February...
I cannot physically imagine not getting a frost until January. It sounds almost impossible.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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But it is possible in some places and happens frequently.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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I cannot physically imagine not getting a frost until January. It sounds almost impossible.
Well you should be grateful you are not a cold & snow lover living on the south coast then
 
Old 11-13-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Oh believe me I am!
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