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Old 06-26-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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I have taken probability and statisics, linear models, data analysis, advanced probability, and decision theory. Be careful...
Great, maybe you can use actual statistics to show Gallup was wrong.

Nobody else can do this.

To be fair though you haven't been going around saying, "these statistics are MAYBE wrong so let's ignore them." So that comment only really pertains to people who are in denial of data and methods they dont understand, without being able to show how it is wrong.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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Great, maybe you can use actual statistics to show Gallup was wrong.

Nobody else can do this.

To be fair though you haven't been going around saying, "these statistics are MAYBE wrong so let's ignore them." So that comment only really pertains to people who are in denial of data and methods they dont understand, without being able to show how it is wrong.
But then again your acceptance of the Gallup poll with opionated responses and margin of error are unfallable FACTS.

When your opinionated facts are compared against real data such as crime, poverty, unemployment rates, you are in denial about whats relevant, and dismiss the actual relevant statistics to the quality of life in cities.

That's why when people read your responses they laugh and chuckle, because you cling to being wrong and wear it as a badge of honor.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:10 PM
 
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But then again your acceptance of the Gallup poll with opionated responses and margin of error are unfallable FACTS.

When your opinionated facts are compared against real data such as crime, poverty, unemployment rates, you are in denial about whats relevant, and dismiss the actual relevant statistics to the quality of life in cities.

That's why when people read your responses they laugh and chuckle, because you cling to being wrong and wear it as a badge of honor.
No, I am accepting statistical research that has not been shown to be wrong and where no alternative information has been showing.

You are rejecting statistical facts because of your opinionated bias.

The statistical research has not been compared to ant real data such as crime, poverty, unemployment rates, etc. I have asked you and everyone else who doesnt believe this to do this, but no one can.

That's why you are all being ignorant and are wrong. You can laugh and chuckle at facts you dont like all day, but at the end of the day the joke is on you and everyone else is laughing at you. So by all means be proud of ignorance, but it is this kind of attitude that is causing Charleston and Huntington to be so miserable to begin with. Refusing to believe the truth wont change it.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:52 PM
 
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I made random survey calls to 100 Charleston residents. The one question I asked: Would you be happier living in Charleston or Morgantown WV? My responses show 72 choosing Charleston, versus 28 choosing Motown over Charleston.

This was a scientific, statistically accurate survey in that the calls were random, and all were asked the exact same question.l

The scientific, factual, conclusion is that Charleston is a considerably more desirable place to live than Morgantown, by nearly three to one according to Charleston residents.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:01 PM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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I made random survey calls to 100 Charleston residents. The one question I asked: Would you be happier living in Charleston or Morgantown WV? My responses show 72 choosing Charleston, versus 28 choosing Motown over Charleston.

This was a scientific, statistically accurate survey in that the calls were random, and all were asked the exact same question.l

The scientific, factual, conclusion is that Charleston is a considerably more desirable place to live than Morgantown, by nearly three to one according to Charleston residents.
Way to go RVA, we need more interactive City-Data posters!

Will that certain someone accept these facts or call them arbitrary
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:04 PM
 
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Way to go RVA, we need more interactive City-Data posters!

Will that certain someone accept these facts or call them arbitrary
Arbitrary? These are cold, hard scientific facts. Unless Cry can produce hard scientific facts to refute my survey, then he is just denying science...........because "he just doesn't believe it"
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:08 PM
 
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I made random survey calls to 100 Charleston residents. The one question I asked: Would you be happier living in Charleston or Morgantown WV? My responses show 72 choosing Charleston, versus 28 choosing Motown over Charleston.

This was a scientific, statistically accurate survey in that the calls were random, and all were asked the exact same question.l

The scientific, factual, conclusion is that Charleston is a considerably more desirable place to live than Morgantown, by nearly three to one according to Charleston residents.
So you acknowledge Gallup is right.

Now just get your data published and acknowledged after review.

Dont give up.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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So you acknowledge Gallup is right.

Now just get your data published and acknowledged after review.

Dont give up.
I don't need or want Gallup. My data is published - right here on CD

Now Science Boy - Refute it!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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Way to go RVA, we need more interactive City-Data posters!

Will that certain someone accept these facts or call them arbitrary
Yes, we do I am excited for when RVA reveals this survey to the world to be taken seriously.

If he really does with solid data and valid methods people may believe it.

Im sure he will keep us posted on his progress. Maybe he should contact gallup and see if they will back his data.

The best part of this all by arguing this RVA acknowledges Gallup is right. He is throwing away his earlier arguments, however weak and wrong they were.
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Old 06-27-2013, 08:14 PM
 
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I don't need or want Gallup. My data is published - right here on CD

Now Science Boy - Refute it!!!!!!!!!!!
It isnt published.

Saying something on a forum is not publishing it.

If and when you publish this claim I will gladly do so.

Good luck with your endeavor!
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