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View Poll Results: Which 1st world nation has the worst quality of life in your opinion?
Japan 10 4.02%
South Korea 19 7.63%
Singapore 23 9.24%
United States 68 27.31%
Canada 1 0.40%
UK 21 8.43%
Ireland 3 1.20%
Italy 9 3.61%
France 1 0.40%
Spain 16 6.43%
Germany 3 1.20%
Denmark 0 0%
Sweden 3 1.20%
Poland 68 27.31%
New Zealand 4 1.61%
Voters: 249. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:34 PM
 
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Doesn't one need good credit for a credit card? Last I checked, the only "credit card" one could get with bad credit was one that wasn't a credit card at all, but a deposit card - you deposit your money and then spend it with a card that looks just like a credit card.

To have good credit, you have to meet certain standards. Having no money, making no salary, and showing only welfare checks does not get you a real credit card. However, you CAN get a "deposit" card.


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Why take a loan? All you need is a credit card for thoes, its much easier.
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:50 PM
 
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Do you know what section 8 is?
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Old 06-13-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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This is how you do it.. from what i know you get on medicaid and section 8.. and if u are low income..the section 8. Pays for your housing and medicaid for your medical stuff
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:08 AM
 
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[quote=Saritaschihuahua;24733247] So I'm still utterly confused about the $200 Air Jordans.


Cash changes hands in American low income areas constantly. Many, many poor Americans have a hustle, whatever that hustle may be.

I'm utterly confused that anyone in the U.S could be utterly confused about poor folks wearing expensive shoes or owning a cell phone or having a car.

The fact that the US even made the list, let alone has the most votes, is a joke.

Most poor people in this country have food stamp cards, section 8 housing, disability checks, welfare checks, access to countless food banks, soup kitchens, community college grants/loans and job training, ibrary internet access..etc.

Never in the history of the world have poor people had such a high quality of life as the poor in America today.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:48 AM
 
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So I'm still utterly confused about the $200 Air Jordans.


Cash changes hands in American low income areas constantly. Many, many poor Americans have a hustle, whatever that hustle may be.

I'm utterly confused that anyone in the U.S could be utterly confused about poor folks wearing expensive shoes or owning a cell phone or having a car.

The fact that the US even made the list, let alone has the most votes, is a joke.

Most poor people in this country have food stamp cards, section 8 housing, disability checks, welfare checks, access to countless food banks, soup kitchens, community college grants/loans and job training, ibrary internet access..etc.

Never in the history of the world have poor people had such a high quality of life as the poor in America today.
this is simply not true, and actually kind of offensive. i grew up in periods of hard times in the us, but was lucky enough to have close family that wasn't...that is not the same story for many other people who i know, and practically the entire high school i went to. then i think of my peers in italy and the NL who are by their standards considered "poor"...and they live scores better, and have far better access to lifes basic needs. section 8 and food stamps etc exist for a small percentage of the actual "poor" and those kind of programmes do not by any means make up for the lack of resourses for those who are struggling
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Is it a failing bank, does it need a bailout?

It sounds like Scotland hasn't done a very good job of preparing itself for independence. Before political independence there needs to be a basis for economic independence. Scotland hasn't made serious effort to protect its interests, it sounds like. Probably because the people in gov't tend to be pro-UK, I'd guess. Probably the people agitating for independence aren't the people who have any power to make important decisions regarding sovereignty and control over economic resources.

Besides, if it's the UK gov't that invested in North Sea drilling, then one could argue they should be compensated for their investment if Scotland were to take over the resource.

Has anyone on the Scottish independence side thought any of this through? Doesn't sound like it. Moves for independence can't be based on mere emotion, there's a very practical side to it that needs to be addressed and planned for.
You're 100% right. Scottish politicians have not thought this through. Recently they declared the UK would continue to run Scottish banks upon independence, only for it to be claimed illegal just a few hours after it was announced!! Bunch of jokers with no vision or credible plan. I feel sorry for Scotland, I hope they get rid of these goons.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:42 AM
 
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Absolutely. I know someone who is a Section 8 landlord. He was once a regular landlord but changed to becoming a Section 8 landlord. The people he rents to are very, very poor.


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Do you know what section 8 is?
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Old 06-14-2012, 11:01 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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You're 100% right. Scottish politicians have not thought this through. Recently they declared the UK would continue to run Scottish banks upon independence, only for it to be claimed illegal just a few hours after it was announced!! Bunch of jokers with no vision or credible plan. I feel sorry for Scotland, I hope they get rid of these goons.
Well, there's nothing wrong with pushing for independence, as long as you know what you're doing. You need an economic development plan and a credible, practical way to pursue it. You need to lay groundwork in advance, like begin to negotiate with the UK over the oil issue, and so forth. You need to research legal issues involved with any economic change, like the bank question, the oil issue, etc. You need a team of gov't people who are all on the same page and supportive of the effort.

Sounds like the pro-independence people need to spend a very long time at the drawing board, first.
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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I chose Poland even though I have lived there before and thoroughly enjoyed it. Poland is still relatively poor, its infrastructure hasn't fully caught up with western Europe's yet, and the cost of living is insanely high relative to wages.

However, I enjoyed living there more than in some developed nations. Of those on the list it's the worst, but not by much! If Greece had been on the list I'd have voted for Greece instead.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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For me as a single man the most important factor would be how do women veiw a poor or average man for dating or serious relationship.I don't want to have to srtive to be an aspiring emporer in order to date well.The U.S would qualify as worst for my quality of life in this regard.As I have never been to the other countries I would like an opinion on how they would fair in this regard.
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