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Old 08-09-2014, 01:57 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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^ yup, and yet, it's still a better place than the countries around it. Go figure.
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:28 AM
 
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Jews are Asians from the middle East and Europeans are Europeans. Jews are not ethnic Europeans. They have nothing to do with Europe's culture and ethnic groups. They did attempt to immigrate to Europe (Spain and Germany) and bad things happened in these two countries.

Most Jews in Israel are Europeans, from every European country. Their culture is European and they were/are a very important contribution to the European culture. (Freud, Einstein, Christianity, Banking, etc, etc).

Yes, they were expelled and exterminated in the past, but so were millions of christians.

If you examine the original population of the US, from Plgrims up, they are all refugees that would have been exterminated if they had remained in Europe.

Many people descends from them, or have them in their family, I have family that I know were conversed.

Their place is Europe, in Israel they will perish sooner or later.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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^ yup, and yet, it's still a better place than the countries around it. Go figure.
Even if all of Sabre Todo's "facts" were true, more people have been killed in Syria by their government in the last three years than Israel ever killed.
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Old 08-09-2014, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Palestine present more than ever in Latin American politics - Opinion - Al Jazeera English

Venezuela threatens its Jews over Gaza War - San Diego Jewish World
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Old 08-09-2014, 11:16 AM
 
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Leave Latin Americans alone. There is no mandate to support Israel, and their wrongdoing should be criticized.

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Bless Israel and be blessed. Curse Israel and be cursed. Countries ignoring God's warning jepordize the entire country . God via His manfestation as Jesus Christ will
reign for 1000 years in His beloved Jerusalem. Never try to divide Israel or even re-
motely be involved as an influencer or sit on any committee. The consequences are
extremely damaging, life threatening and brings out Gods consuming fire that lifts
any vail of protection! Anotherwords, don't go there period (much much longer story)
God made conditional promises to Israel that have nothing to do with those of us today. We are not to encourage the sinful efforts of Israel simply because God chose them for a particular purpose. Further, Christ will reign for 1000 in heaven where the saints will "judge" the world. Then will the wicked finally be destroyed and NEW Jerusalem will come down.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:04 PM
 
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Leave Latin Americans alone. There is no mandate to support Israel, and their wrongdoing should be criticized.



God made conditional promises to Israel that have nothing to do with those of us today. We are not to encourage the sinful efforts of Israel simply because God chose them for a particular purpose. Further, Christ will reign for 1000 in heaven where the saints will "judge" the world. Then will the wicked finally be destroyed and NEW Jerusalem will come down.
Right! Spot on.

In addition, today's modern day Israel is not the same as biblical & ancient Holy Land Israel. Completely different concept.

Also according to many Jews, Jews can not have a Jewish state or homeland until their messiah comes, so the existence of Israel goes against Jewish religion & Jewish beliefs & teachings.

And Zionism is not Judaism.
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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Hebrew people & Jews technically didn't even originate in ancient Israel or modern day Israel anyways. It's said that later on a king and leaders in ancient times declared the rights to and declared Jerusalem and various tribes & kingdoms of Israel as a homeland for the Hebrews and united them, but various sources and evidence suggests that the Jews originated with origins in the Levant, or Persia. Other theories & sources show that Jews originated from various points of the African continent with origins that are extremely ancient!
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Old 08-09-2014, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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Hebrew people & Jews technically didn't even originate in ancient Israel or modern day Israel anyways. It's said that later on a king and leaders in ancient times declared the rights to and declared Jerusalem and various tribes & kingdoms of Israel as a homeland for the Hebrews and united them, but various sources and evidence suggests that the Jews originated with origins in the Levant, or Persia. Other theories & sources show that Jews originated from various points of the African continent with origins that are extremely ancient!
The Jews are the only people alive today that had a sovereign state in what is today Israel. No other people on earth have cultural or historical roots in the land. Israel is a secular state that wants to exist because it has every right to exist. They would do anything for peace including a two state solution which they have offered many times. By contrast, Hamas only wants a one state solution... with that one state being an Islamic one. They do not have historical ties to the land, but they are motivated by religious texts that tell them the Jews must be driven into the sea.

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Old 08-09-2014, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Hebrew people & Jews technically didn't even originate in ancient Israel or modern day Israel anyways. It's said that later on a king and leaders in ancient times declared the rights to and declared Jerusalem and various tribes & kingdoms of Israel as a homeland for the Hebrews and united them, but various sources and evidence suggests that the Jews originated with origins in the Levant, or Persia. Other theories & sources show that Jews originated from various points of the African continent with origins that are extremely ancient!
Israel is in the LEVANT.

Levant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-09-2014, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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Song dedicated to Israel by Wendy Sulca, Delfin Hastaelfin and La Tigresa del Oriente:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5tZ_X0dSo
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