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Old 03-14-2020, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I am curious why there are so many atheist programs that cover religions and god and stuff, but nothing going after things that now are far more popular and more dangerous. Things like Pseudoscience, law of attraction, "Abraham" Hicks. Pam Grout, spirit guides, and all of this other endless new age occult stuff that everyone even non-religious people are buying into and in some cases even claiming as proven by science!
Don't know what you mean by "atheist programs". I certainly don't know of any.

There are a couple of well-established magazines that go after the weird **** - Skeptical Inquirer and The Skeptic.

Perhaps what you mean by "atheist programs" are legal responses to issues that arise when religionists try to introduce religion into formal government. But the weirdnesses you mention, and many more besides, don't raise legal issues. Individuals are free to believe whatever cockamamie things they wish to believe. Atheists in general are pretty darn fond of freedom of speech and of belief. Legal issues only arise when, for instance, someone demands that a school includes astral travel in an educational curriculum.

It falls to individual atheists to rise our hands and say "Um, excuse me..." when someone earnestly commits occultism in front of us.
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:13 PM
 
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Don't know what you mean by "atheist programs". I certainly don't know of any.

There are a couple of well-established magazines that go after the weird **** - Skeptical Inquirer and The Skeptic.

Perhaps what you mean by "atheist programs" are legal responses to issues that arise when religionists try to introduce religion into formal government. But the weirdnesses you mention, and many more besides, don't raise legal issues. Individuals are free to believe whatever cockamamie things they wish to believe. Atheists in general are pretty darn fond of freedom of speech and of belief. Legal issues only arise when, for instance, someone demands that a school includes astral travel in an educational curriculum.

It falls to individual atheists to rise our hands and say "Um, excuse me..." when someone earnestly commits occultism in front of us.
I meant programs like The Atheist Experience, Talk Heathen, Thinking Atheist, etc
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Old 03-15-2020, 12:07 AM
 
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Atheism covers the question of a deity. The other things you have listed are assaults against rationalism. This is the atheist forum. I consider the things you listed to be nonsense, and I believe so do the majority of atheists, but such opposition is not a requirement of atheism.

Correct. Rationalism (James Randi, for example) goes after these things, but isn't a spokesperson on atheism as such. Because, as you say, atheism is rationalism purely addressing this one claim; the god -claim.

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I meant programs like The Atheist Experience, Talk Heathen, Thinking Atheist, etc

Yes, those. They address this one question of the god-claim. Atheism having a rationalist rationale (not that all atheists are rationalists), one would expect the people who do these 'programs' to also apply rationalism to other matters. Indeed I have heard Matt Dillahunty mention UFOs in passing and showing a rationalist view if it. But the UFO claim is not particularly related to atheism. Nor Ghosts, Dowsing or Homeopathy.
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Old 03-15-2020, 07:32 AM
 
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So there are no shows or anything that address the type of stuff I mentioned? Because as I said those things are more popular and dangerous than religion these days. And I am surprised I have not seen any shows doing those topics. And I and others have looked.
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Old 03-15-2020, 10:57 AM
 
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So there are no shows or anything that address the type of stuff I mentioned? Because as I said those things are more popular and dangerous than religion these days. And I am surprised I have not seen any shows doing those topics. And I and others have looked.
There are a few. Check out Oh No!, Ross and Carrie. They explore religous and pseudoscientific claims in a light hearted manner.
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Old 03-15-2020, 11:31 AM
 
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So there are no shows or anything that address the type of stuff I mentioned? Because as I said those things are more popular and dangerous than religion these days. And I am surprised I have not seen any shows doing those topics. And I and others have looked.
I agree. But those do not fall within the purview of atheism. Of course atheists (as rationalists) may deal with those matters as well. It's a question if demarcation. An archaeologist may find some dinosaur bones while digging. He would probably turn over that part of the dig to a palaeontolgist, because it's not his area of expertise.
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Old 03-15-2020, 11:47 AM
 
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There are a few. Check out Oh No!, Ross and Carrie. They explore religous and pseudoscientific claims in a light hearted manner.
Thanks I will check that out!
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Old 03-17-2020, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Pfffft! Day 4 of lock-down and 'cabin fever' just starting. Only 11 days to go before....another 15 days!
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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The Lord giveth and Science taketh away.


Scientists isolate Covid-19 virus
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...-a9399226.html

Not sure what the Lord has to do with anything.





Probably giving away far too much of my identity here but:
my husband works in Biotech. His team have been working around the clock and made two announcements since yesterday:


The team he is leading started trials in New York yesterday on this:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...Smp1xgp0jt8NA4





They also hope to have this ready soon:


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/rege...ly-summer.html




The first one is a treatment for severely ill patients infected with COVID-19.



The second one will be a therapy using antibodies that they hope will act as both a vaccine and a treatment.
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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Pfffft! Day 4 of lock-down and 'cabin fever' just starting. Only 11 days to go before....another 15 days!



We live at the epicenter of the New York outbreak. I actually haven't left the house for 16 days.
I'm an introvert though, so to be honest, I'm absolutely fine with it.

I knew being introverted would come in handy one day.
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