I played dumb today... (education, political, girls, places)
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Christians, like most cult followers don’t want to hear your opinion. They are caught up in this religion and no matter what you say they don’t want to stop yapping. This country was built on freedom of religion as well as freedom FROM religion. Stop making people feel guilty. It’s not your job to crusade for god. Live and let live. What’s the matter with that? Religion is a personal thing. Keep it to yourself.
A poster repeatedly asked for the names of non-new atheists that had contributed something in the past.
Friedrich Nietzsche and Ayn Rand were mentioned. For obvious reasons Rand is not a well liked atheist philosopher.
Human norms are human norms. The places with the least violence, score highest in the happy index, cover their people with universal healthcare as a right, also are the countries where religion plays a very small role. The more secular, the better for the citizens involved.
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It's an interesting thing about some of those countries, that are considered very secular, where religion supposedly has only a very small role. On the Europe forum, it's come out that in the Scandinavian countries, religion plays a larger role than is generally believed to be the case by outsiders. Schools close nation-wide for religious holidays. Baptism of infants, according to some posters, is still widely practiced. Some people still go to church at least on religious holidays. People from those countries were in disbelief, angrily so, when I said most people I know (including myself) weren't baptized as kids. There are regions of the US that are much more secular than those vaunted "secular" countries in Europe, contrary to the public images of same.
I think some Europeans hear about communities in the US, that mandate the teaching of creationism in schools, and other fundamentalist phenomena, and take that to be the norm in the US, when it's actually far from the norm.
Last edited by Ruth4Truth; 05-07-2019 at 10:48 AM..
OK, Ayn Rand a very famous atheist came up with the concepts of individualism and to reject altruism. That in itself is a major victory for atheism.
How does atheism reject altruism?! How is a rejection of altruism a "victory" for atheism??!! Frankly, the atheists I know are the most genuinely altruistic people I know.
As I said a poster repeatedly asked for the names of old fashion atheists that had contributed in the past. Rand has written novels and is also a philosopher. I also mentioned Friedrich Nietzsche who is apparently much better accepted.
How does atheism reject altruism?! How is a rejection of altruism a "victory" for atheism??!! Frankly, the atheists I know are the most genuinely altruistic people I know.
Atheists can be into social justice or libertarian.
Altruism is fine as long as you don't force that into others.
It's an interesting thing about some of those countries, that are considered very secular, where religion supposedly has only a very small role. On the Europe forum, it's come out that in the Scandinavian countries, religion plays a larger role than is generally believed to be the case by outsiders. Schools close nation-wide for religious holidays. Baptism of infants, according to some posters, is still widely practiced. Some people still go to church at least on religious holidays. People from those countries were in disbelief, angrily so, when I said most people I know (including myself) weren't baptized as kids. There are regions of the US that are much more secular than those vaunted "secular" countries in Europe, contrary to the public images of same.
I think some Europeans hear about communities in the US, that mandate the teaching of creationism in schools, and other fundamentalist phenomena, and take that to be the norm in the US, when it's actually far from the norm.
You may want to correct the European forum members views, as they are incorrect:
A bill passed in 2016 and effective as of 1 January 2017 created the Church of Norway as an independent legal entity.[5][6] Until the 2012 constitutional amendment the Evangelical-Lutheran religion was the public religion of the State.[7][8][9][10] The Church of Norway will still obtain financial support from the state of Norway, along with other religious communities. WIKI
Some interesting information...the US and Mexico have about the same amount of religiously inclined people. And the former Soviet Union, which made a deliberate effort to discourage religion among the people, is now solidly blue with them.
Russia and South America seem to be the great holdouts here.
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