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I was chatting with a co-worker today about plane crashes...she is leaving for a vacation in Florida at the end of the week, and she is a nervous flyer.
To calm her, I pointed out how adept the pilot(s) that landed their plane in the Hudson were, and how nobody on board was seriously injured. Her reply to that was, "Yes...they all have God to thank for that."
Well, I couldn't help myself. Annoyed, I asked her, "Do all the people who died in the commuter plane crash in New York a couple of weeks ago have God to thank for THAT too? I mean, why would God save the people on one plane, and let them all die on the other?
Her answer..."Only God knows the answer to that."
So I asked her, "Do you believe God decides who survives plane crashes and who doesn't?" She answered, "God calls us home when he's ready."
So, still very annoyed, I asked, "When God is ready to call you home, how do you want to get there? Plane crash, drowning, eaten by a shark or alligator, stabbed, strangled, cancer, car crash, fall off a cliff?
That question dumbfounded her, so she snorted, "Well, clearly you don't understand our Lord, so I think this conversation is over."
God gets all of the credit and none of the blame. "His ways are not like ours..." Who does claim to "understand Our Lord"? Better yet, how can a thinking person believe in something he/she can't understand? Perhaps the Bible should be retitled God for Dummies, or The Idiot's Guide to God. That reminds me of Stevie Wonder's song Superstitious, which includes the line, "When you believe in things that you don't understand...".
I was chatting with a co-worker today about plane crashes...she is leaving for a vacation in Florida at the end of the week, and she is a nervous flyer.
I wonder why she's nervous since the worst that could happen would be that God would be calling her home. Anyway, it sounds like you've made a new friend at work.
If we can't understand "god's ways" how can anyone reasonably claim to know how god wants to be worshipped? Either you can know what your death cult deity wants, or not. You can't have it both ways.
Most Christians will defend their almighty god no matter what. It's a never ending battle. God (if it exists) could come down with a machete and hack a baby into pieces and set a village on fire and they would defend god still. It's because they have put all their own personal being into this one thing (god) and it's human nature to defend themselves...and their god.
Without their beliefs they feel they are nothing. Many of them don't even believe in themselves anymore, only god. Many of them have lost their hopes and dreams and slipped into daily life misery so "god" is now their only hope. A hope that the next life is better because this one sucks.
That's my take on it anyways.
I was chatting with a co-worker today about plane crashes...she is leaving for a vacation in Florida at the end of the week, and she is a nervous flyer.
To calm her, I pointed out how adept the pilot(s) that landed their plane in the Hudson were, and how nobody on board was seriously injured. Her reply to that was, "Yes...they all have God to thank for that."
Well, I couldn't help myself. Annoyed, I asked her, "Do all the people who died in the commuter plane crash in New York a couple of weeks ago have God to thank for THAT too? I mean, why would God save the people on one plane, and let them all die on the other?
Her answer..."Only God knows the answer to that."
So I asked her, "Do you believe God decides who survives plane crashes and who doesn't?" She answered, "God calls us home when he's ready."
So, still very annoyed, I asked, "When God is ready to call you home, how do you want to get there? Plane crash, drowning, eaten by a shark or alligator, stabbed, strangled, cancer, car crash, fall off a cliff?
That question dumbfounded her, so she snorted, "Well, clearly you don't understand our Lord, so I think this conversation is over."
Aaaaaaargh! (just had to rant...sorry).
How typical, to shut down the conversation, because she could not answer you. To her, "understanding the Lord" means denying or dismissing the bad that happens.
I always ask why God let it all happen in the first place, when they gloat over the rescues.
And called "home?" Since when was heaven a home, if none of us have ever lived there?
Most Christians will defend their almighty god no matter what. It's a never ending battle. God (if it exists) could come down with a machete and hack a baby into pieces and set a village on fire and they would defend god still. It's because they have put all their own personal being into this one thing (god) and it's human nature to defend themselves...and their god.
Without their beliefs they feel they are nothing. Many of them don't even believe in themselves anymore, only god. Many of them have lost their hopes and dreams and slipped into daily life misery so "god" is now their only hope. A hope that the next life is better because this one sucks.
That's my take on it anyways.
I agree. It is always about the future, never now. Since one plane crashes and many die, and another one is saved, I can only say that is randomness, not some god at work. Would make no sense that a god would want all on one plane to die.
I liked the dialogue in Lethal Weapon where Danny Glover says "God hates me" and Gibson replies "Hate him back.....it works for me."
What you experienced is an immature Christian. Unfortunately the majority of them are like that.
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(just had to rant...sorry).
Anyway, it sounds like you've made a new friend at work.
