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Old 07-28-2016, 02:42 PM
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There was negligence in how the primary was run in these states with many votes taken off the rolls for no reason before the primary. Some people's parties were changed and many provisional ballots were given out. Exit polls weren't even used in California. These are real things that happened, and you can ask any volunteer who worked in the California polling places. Stop acting like this isn't real, this is the reason you're seeing unrest in the Democratic Party. Just admit that something went wrong and stop acting like this is how a democracy is supposed to work.
I don't deny any of that, but unless Clinton's team somehow knew how the people that were removed were going to vote, this was not an act carried out to help Clinton. These things were probably more damaging to Clinton's vote totals than to Sanders.

 
Old 07-28-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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Arkansas going blue this election?
 
Old 07-28-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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There was negligence in how the primary was run in these states with many votes taken off the rolls for no reason before the primary. Some people's parties were changed and many provisional ballots were given out. Exit polls weren't even used in California. These are real things that happened, and you can ask any volunteer who worked in the California polling places. Stop acting like this isn't real, this is the reason you're seeing unrest in the Democratic Party. Just admit that something went wrong and stop acting like this is how a democracy is supposed to work.
You do understand that Hilary was winning national and those states Polls right?

New poll finds Clinton trouncing Sanders in California - Mercury News

Hillary Clinton Leads Bernie Sanders in New York by 17 Points Ahead of Primary, Poll Finds - WSJ

So Hilary was up 17 points in New York by some polls.

There wasn't exit polls by general state polls in Cali that had Hilary Ahead. All Early voting lean Hilary.

Hillary generally was winning urban areas over Sanders. A lot those areas was Hilary areas. Hilary was also beating Sanders by a margin with Black, Latino, and Women voters.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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So what you guys are saying is that it's ok to not hold our government officials accountable? If you're not gonna hold DNC accountable I don't see why you're so scared of Trump. Seems to me like you won't even care what he does in office. He's a maniac, but he didn't rig an election.
First Off Party Officials aren't Government Officials.

2nd Off let hold them for what they been convicted of..... Oh yeah that's right Hilary hasn't even been found guilty of anything. But Trump has faced many currpted and exploited business charges repeatedly.

2nd off No, it seems you...... don't even care what a leader would do when they in office, you just care about conspiracy and the election. And Nothing about Governing and policy.

3rd off Your oblivious to the fact that Trump has done worst...is doing worst

Your arguing your suspicious of Hillary Clinton while ignoring the reality of Trump. One Candidate people are suspicious of doing wrong Hilary the other is wearing a giant sign saying he is and will do wrong that the difference.


The Hold point of the Email publicly is Security, Trust what could she be hiding do she care for Americans? I bunch wonders

Mean while.... Trump rooted for the recession to hurt Americans...... It not a question mark to wonder.. that's a clear lack of caring about Americans... Trump disrespect for are allies, and prejudice remarks to Muslims is a Security risk,

Your talking about Hilary is a liar, by fact checkers say she mostly honest and Trump lies 3 times more, and mainly lies. Caring about Hilary lying about her Emails is very stupid in comparison to Trump running a campaign against out sourcing jobs while out sousing Jobs. Hilary Email is not policy, but Trump anti out sourcing jobs suppose to be his policy stance.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 10:40 PM
 
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He named them COUNT BY COUNT, for God's sake. Stop being an apologist. I don't need to watch it twice.
And where are your examples of treasonous behavior on Trump's part?
1. He didn't not remotely suggest such. The Worst he said was she was reckless.

2. Treason is betraying one country to help another. How the heck is just having a private sever Treason? unless you can prove Hilary did it to help another country what are you taking about?

3. Trump is asking another country to hack and interfere with American politics.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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That could be good for GA if it turned, happened in VA and not only does it make the state a viable contender every year and money is put into the races from the national party, but it has a major impact on the state races and state policies in general, get GA to shift more to the center instead of hard right across the board.
 
Old 07-28-2016, 11:33 PM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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This election is a lose lose situation regardless.
 
Old 07-29-2016, 06:03 AM
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So what you guys are saying is that it's ok to not hold our government officials accountable?
Accountable for violating what specific portion of the US Code? You see, all I see from you is vapid ranting. I'm wondering if you can actually think through the matter clearly enough to be appropriately specific and measured in your presentation of evidence of what you are complaining about.

Once you do that - once you stop the Chicken Little rhetoric - and present specific offenses, committed by specific people, based on specific and unequivocally damning evidence, then we can say, "Yup! Let's have this person arrested for the crime you allege, and let's have that person held accountable!" I'll be the first to put my hand in the air, once you've posted a responsible complaint.

So let's stop with the blowing of smoke and get specific, get measured, get evidence-based.

PS: Which government is this transgressor you're so upset about an official within?

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Remember, Sanders did not represent Vermont purely as a Democratic Senator. He carried the label "Socialist" although he did caucus with them.
Specifically: Bernie Sanders was not a Democrat until he decided to run for POTUS as one. He was, very specifically, an Independent. So, there should be no question that Bernie Sanders running for POTUS as a Democrat is akin to an ordained Lutheran minister applying for a job leading a Methodist Church, competing against a minister of Methodist churches for 40 years.

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Old 07-29-2016, 06:19 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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1. He didn't not remotely suggest such. The Worst he said was she was reckless.

2. Treason is betraying one country to help another. How the heck is just having a private sever Treason? unless you can prove Hilary did it to help another country what are you taking about?

3. Trump is asking another country to hack and interfere with American politics.
I would say Ted Kennedy had the franchise on getting other countries to interfere with American politics.
 
Old 07-29-2016, 06:34 AM
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So I take it that you won't be voting for Ted Kennedy this year. Neither will I.
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