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Old 05-28-2008, 06:52 PM
 
Location: East Cobb
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As a Christian, I believe in the possibility of redemption. Jesus would not be found in a lynch mob, and this isn't one of my temptations, thanks be to God.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Scarlet letter? Totally for it. Sexual predators should be marked. I think when a crime is commited like sexual abuse against a child you lose your right to expect to go back to a "normal" life after serving time. The kids that are hurt don't get too. Sexual abuse is the gift that keeps on giving, WELL into adulthood. Victims are in a virtual prison. Did you think about that?
So a 17 year old boy happens to be dating a 15-year-old girl in Georgia, they both make a bad decision and get caught, her parents decide to press charges, and the boy was convicted of statutory rape.

He should lose any chance of a normal life?

What if the two were only 13 months apart when things happened (boy just turned 17, and girl would be turning 16 the month after the incident occurred)?

In Georgia, they probably already did some prison time. Isn't that enough?

I may be reaching, but as far as I know the boy in question would be on the list.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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I totally agree with illustrate. Sex offenders are a different type of criminal. When you harm a CHILD, you loose all rights to lead a "normal" life.
A "child" in Georgia is anyone under the age of 16. We aren't talking about just five-year-olds here.
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Old 05-28-2008, 07:57 PM
 
Location: West Cobb County, GA (Atlanta metro)
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I agree. Some of these people on the forum must have very limited life experience. The registry is all we have. Why are so many more concerned with the perpetrator? When that line is crossed with a child, they deserve what they get and MUCH more. Should've thought of that before the crime. The kids don't get to live a normal life, why should the criminal?
I don't think it's a matter of people taking sides with the criminal, or for that matter, faulting parents who want to make sure their kids are safe.

Some folks (myself included) have simply brought up the point that you can't only rely on registers for safety, and that predators can (and are) in numbers outside of "the system" who aren't on any kind of registry. Neighbors, teachers, even family members - many of whom will never be caught doing these things. So, the best protection is properly teaching your child what to do if someone, anyone, does something inappropriate.

And as others have pointed out, the registry and laws do need some updating so as not to include those slightly over 18 with younger girlfriends, or similar situations - right now everyone who does anything that falls under a "sex offense" is clumped into one and the same huge pile on an online registry, and I know a lot of people would like to see that changed, so you can more easily I.D. an adult who preys on children, as opposed to an 18 year old who made a mistake, as opposed to a domestic abuse case between husband/wife which is bad but would not pose a risk to neighborhood kids, etc etc etc.

And as a side note, I'd still like to see an online database of people who have been caught speeding through school zones, or DUI convictions for that matter while we're at it. I'd be willing to guess that more children are harmed by careless, wreckless, and drunk drivers than there are victims of sexual predators, yet we don't I.D. the bad drivers publicly, and just like predators, they continue to do these things even after getting caught.

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Old 05-28-2008, 08:36 PM
 
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The sex offender who gets to your child is 9 times out of 10 someone RELATED to you. Your husband, perhaps, or grandpa or an uncle - aunt, maybe. And the wife is likely to ignore or cover up the activity.

But no, you won't admit that, it's easier to be afraid of strangers.

Suppose the sex offender is your own 17-year-old boy, dating a 15-year-old girl.
They don't actually have to have sex to become a registered sex offender, you know.

But no, you won't allow yourself to admit this. Instead, let's be afraid of strangers in dirty overcoats.

It's so much easier to blame someone else, isn't it?
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:20 PM
 
Location: West Cobb (formerly Vinings)
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I believe the conviction of Genarlow Wilson at 17 for oral sex with a 15 year old girl resulted in the the "Romeo and Juliet" clause in its laws for people under 18. However, not every state has this. In Ogden, Utah a 13 year old girl was found to be both a victim and offender for having sex with a 12 year old. Both were found guilty. Then there was the Latrobe, PA girl found guilty of child pornography for photos she made of herself and sent to her friends. Additionally, with some of the age gap laws meant to protect some minors from prosecution, for instance in CT, a 15 year old could be found guilty for having consensual relations with a 12 year old. This article is an interesting read.

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Old 05-31-2008, 04:57 PM
 
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Default Not taking your bait, Greg.

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What if "he" is a "she"? Same treatment? Still knocking on that door?




And someone's political leanings have exactly what to do with child predators? As a matter of fact, I do believe that a number of high-profile pedofiles arrested over the years have been elected conservative Republican officials - does that matter too, or only the evil liberals? Keep politics out of discussions like this - it makes no difference.





Does this also apply to people who speed, or, I dunno... drive up the road in turn lanes to avoid traffic? Because people who regularly break driving laws and pay their way out of it are an extreme danger to all of the children who are walking on the sidewalks and trying to cross the streets - and they're in much greater numbers than predators. I should know - one such person who was "in a hurry" ran over me when I was 14 and at 42 I live with the physical problems from that every day. Maybe if we go up to the doors of everyone who has received a ticket for driving wrecklessly they'll move out of the neighborhood too, so we can rest easier knowing we won't be run over by them?



Wow.
Wow yourself, buddy. I'm not taking the bait. You can disagree with my tactics or my opinions. but do NOT ever tell me what to "keep out of the discussion". Are you that naive that you think Conservative Republicans EVER voted for ANY bill that expanded the rights of sex offenders? Clearly, in this discussion, politics is germane to the issue at hand.

Whatever - you're entitled to your opinions and to disagree with my opinions, but the snarky tone of your "wow" at the end of your response really says it all, and speaks volumes about you.

In fact, don't bother commenting back - just go raise some funds for Hillary.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:59 PM
 
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Default I know my neighbors

I know everyone on my block and MANY of the families in my subdivision. Lovely people as far as I can tell, but most of them are older couples with kids in college or moved away and married, as this is a development that is turning rental pretty quickly - that's part of why I'm leaving.
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Old 05-31-2008, 05:36 PM
 
Location: East Cobb
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I know everyone on my block and MANY of the families in my subdivision. Lovely people as far as I can tell, ...
Indeed, as far as you can tell. Dennis Rader, the BTK serial killer was a leader in his church and appeared to be an upstanding citizen. Most of us don't know most of our neighbors well enough to detect any concealed bad apples. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to check the RSO list, especially if you have kids. But fixating on the RSOs as the only thing needed to keep kids safe is a mistake.
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Old 05-31-2008, 07:04 PM
 
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Indeed, as far as you can tell. Dennis Rader, the BTK serial killer was a leader in his church and appeared to be an upstanding citizen. Most of us don't know most of our neighbors well enough to detect any concealed bad apples. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to check the RSO list, especially if you have kids. But fixating on the RSOs as the only thing needed to keep kids safe is a mistake.

Like everything worthy of the effort, it's a process - you can't just do ONE thing and expect it to be effective.

I really don't understand why so many on here find it hard to believe that I take the time to get to know my neighbors? I really do! I'm social by nature, and enjoy learning about the people amongst whom I live. Of COURSE I don't know their dark, inner leanings anymore than they know mine (unless of course theyve SEEN me in the fridge at midnight eating half of a cake - I'm such a sucker for sweet carbs), but I know their habits, their comings and goings, and more about them than I guess the average person knows about their neighbors. I'm a nosy parker! LOL
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