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Old 09-07-2021, 05:52 AM
 
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Who is the socialist. The PM is from the Liberal party and is centre right. Do you know anything about this country?
Well, Rakin is probably triggered by the term 'Liberal'. It's a safe bet that the classical concept of economic liberalism being a conservative position completely eludes him. To that end, the notion that Australia's major party on the right calls itself the Liberal Party is probably beyond his ability to even comprehend.

Also, bear in mind that here in the United States, for the right the term socialist is just a catch-all boogeyman, which is slapped incoherently on anything they don't like regardless of whether or not it has anything to do with social means of production. It also has no logic. For example, public well-being in the form of law enforcement and fire departments is lionized and fetishized to no end, but public well-being in the form of health insurance is the looming specter of Lenin and Marx incarnate. But because they love cops, law enforcement (the very manifestation of state power, which perpetually has them wetting their pants in abject terror) magically isn't socialism.

None this makes a lick of sense, but Rakin is just regurgitating the lines of the carnival barkers who tell him what to be terrified of.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:13 AM
 
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What kind of popular support do the lockdowns have down there? Is this going to adversely effect the politicians/parties imposing them in the next elections?
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Old 09-07-2021, 04:52 PM
 
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What kind of popular support do the lockdowns have down there? Is this going to adversely effect the politicians/parties imposing them in the next elections?
No one wants to be locked down but most people understand why it is happening. The time to punish politicians at the ballot box for mishandling management of the pandemic that has led to these lockdowns will arrive soon enough.
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Old 09-07-2021, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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What kind of popular support do the lockdowns have down there? Is this going to adversely effect the politicians/parties imposing them in the next elections?
I think it depends where you are in the country. In places like WA/Tassie, it's been very popular to keep the borders closed the whole time. Possibly QLD too.

I'm not sure about NSW, but in VIC it has been less popular, mainly due to the amount of time that we've spent in lockdown. People keep saying Andrews is a shoe-in but I wouldn't be so sure.

As for Morrison, despite being the more preferred PM his party is currently down in the polls and rightfully so.
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Old 09-07-2021, 06:01 PM
 
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I think it depends where you are in the country. In places like WA/Tassie, it's been very popular to keep the borders closed the whole time. Possibly QLD too.

I'm not sure about NSW, but in VIC it has been less popular, mainly due to the amount of time that we've spent in lockdown. People keep saying Andrews is a shoe-in but I wouldn't be so sure.

As for Morrison, despite being the more preferred PM his party is currently down in the polls and rightfully so.
In NSW I think we are lucky in that it's at the backend of the pandemic and the vaccines are providing a way out. We've only got 4 weeks left of this. I can understand why Victorians would be over it.
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Old 09-08-2021, 09:29 PM
 
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What kind of popular support do the lockdowns have down there? Is this going to adversely effect the politicians/parties imposing them in the next elections?
Covid circa 2020 was electorally a win win for the incumbents. Voters saw the Governments, whatever side of politics, as a stable steadying hand in the face of uncertainy. McClown there in WA played and preached the parochial Us ( West Australians ) V Eastern Staters to the max. I've yet to hear of a WA person who doesn't think the sun shines out of his backside. He won the State election with the largest majority in Australian political history.
In the NT, a Govt on the nose prior to Covid, should have been spanked electorally, got up and won in 2020.
Fast forward 12-18 months and as people ( in the understated Aussie way of whinging without ever taking much action )become fed up with lockdown crap....well I'd suggest being re elected as the governing party is pretty slim in the States hit hardest by the Pandemic.
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Old 09-09-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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Based on the Australians I know, I fully expect them to comply with the Government and their employers. I am confident Australians will offer close to zero resistance to any lockdowns and the Government is pretty much free to do as they please so long as they print money and deposit this into the accounts of their well behaved citizens.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Australia
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Based on the Australians I know, I fully expect them to comply with the Government and their employers. I am confident Australians will offer close to zero resistance to any lockdowns and the Government is pretty much free to do as they please so long as they print money and deposit this into the accounts of their well behaved citizens.
What is the point you are making?

Overall people comply because we do not want to see a death toll like many other countries have experienced.
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Old 09-09-2021, 04:04 PM
 
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What is the point you are making?

Overall people comply because we do not want to see a death toll like many other countries have experienced.
I totally will let you get away with thinking this is the case!
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Old 09-11-2021, 12:13 AM
 
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What is the point you are making?
Not that into memes, but this seems apt...

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