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Old 03-12-2014, 01:45 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Except it's not a disaster, yet. Still no crashed plane. No one has an informed idea of where it is. It could be anywhere, from Indonesian waters to international waters off Vietnam, or on some mountainside in the Philippines, for all we know at the moment. One aviation authority said it had enough fuel to reach India. We don't know for a fact that everyone died, or anyone died.
I agree.

It might as well be on some isolated forest (crashed) with some survivors.

And I really hope that it isn't on the sea and that the above is the case.
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:06 AM
 
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I've been reading this thread since the plane vanished, and I see similar threads with 237 vanished 227 vanished. How do we get this merged into one thread? It's one missing plane and no one knows what happened.

Isn't the latest info that the military tracked the plane two hours into the six hour flight, through a U-turn, then a low altitude, and vanishing near an Island in the Malacca Strait, SE of Kuala Lumpur and no where near the planned flight path?
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:19 AM
 
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Except it's not a disaster, yet. Still no crashed plane. No one has an informed idea of where it is. It could be anywhere, from Indonesian waters to international waters off Vietnam, or on some mountainside in the Philippines, for all we know at the moment. One aviation authority said it had enough fuel to reach India. We don't know for a fact that everyone died, or anyone died.


Somebody report, please, on the Charlie Rose show results.
It's not yet a disaster ... and that has given the families of passengers licence to complain that they waited 30 hours until they were told to expect the worst. Did they not realize that something was wrong after 7, 8, 10 and 20 hours when the plane did not arrive? Did they really need to be told?

Days later, no one knows anything more ... so perhaps those that complained after 30 hours should re-think their position. The families still don't know whether anyone is alive and anxiously waiting for cell phone service, whether they were immediately killed upon arrival after the plane safely landed in a bad area, or if the plane actually went down in the sea.

The dead cell phone service should be a clue, as families are now insisting that placed calls rang through rather than go to a dead end instant message after the plane vanished. Ringing through is presented as meaning that calls could not ring through if the cell phones were at the bottom of the ocean. Is it that information that forced the military to admit that radar indicated the plane changed direction and vanished far off the flight path?
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:25 AM
 
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Imagine that the airline puts out a passenger list and requests that each country notify the families of the dead and missing, only to learn that the people on the dead and missing list are actually alive. That would be enough for most airlines to stop everyone in their tracks and ensure that the list is accurate ... no wonder it took the airline 30 hours to just say that families should expect the worst. They didn't even know if the people on the flight passenger list were in fact on the flight.
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:28 AM
 
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This means nothing and I'm suggesting nothing but I couldn't help noticing that extending a straight line from the last reported course leads directly to Diego Garcia.
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:40 AM
 
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Apparently two Iranian men, aged 19 and 29, travelled to Thailand under their own passports. Once there, an unidentified Iranian man booked $4000 air travel for the two men through as secondary carrier, and cash was paid.

Terrorism, on the basis of the false passports, has come into question and more or less been ruled out. Either the mother knew nothing about her child, or she was waiting at the airport when he was seeking asylum in Germany with a stolen passport. Apparently this means that the Iranian son was an innocent bystander in this matter. The person whose ticket was purchased at the same time must be a second innocent bystander ... bad luck about using the only other stolen passport under the same circumstances, or is there something more to it?
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:13 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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The Malaysian air force/military/government (?) seems to be either conducting an intentional operation to confuse the search for, and fact finding about, the Malaysian Air flight...or else they are incredibly disorganized and stupid, or both.

What are they trying to hide?

What about the US press? They simply winged it by, first, throwing masses of high profile reporters at the story and second, taking days to get information about the systems aboard the 777 that may have failed or were deactivated by the crew and/or passengers aboard the flight.

And what, pray tell, is the status of all the telemetry data that this aircraft is capable of transmitting as a routine matter?
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:19 AM
 
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Not really. If you are on a stolen passport why risk going through a Chinese immigration check to get to Europe? Did they have China to Germany tickets?
Malaysia to Germany via China would be like Chicago to Germany via Ecuador.
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In international transit, when these people land in Beijing Airport, they will have to go thru Security (Personal as well as Carry on Baggage) and visual inspection of Passport and Visa(if required) assuming they already have Boarding Card of their next flight Beijing - Amsterdam. Passport is swiped before printing Boarding pass at Kuala Lumpur Airport and checking in of Luggage. Thats where major Security Failure happened. No Anomaly discovered as Iranian Nationals travelling on Italian and Austrian passport. Names, face features, accent should raise some Red Flags and especially if someone else has bought tickets for them.
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I connected thru Beijing Airport twice- once for SFO and once for Delhi Air China connecting flights DEL-PEK-SFO. Both the times my Passport and visa were checked at Beijing Airport and carry on bag went thru security. They did not swipe the passport in any scanner but they visually checked passport, visa photos and Boarding pass and then matched it with my face.
Transit passengers don't need visas and in any case, there is a relatively new policy that foreign tourists can visit Beijing for 72 hours without a visa.

Now, Malaysia is denying that it provided inconsistent information.

Malaysia Denies Providing Inconsistent Information on Missing Plane
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:51 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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What i am surprised by is the very low level of coverage this event has received in the mainstream media.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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What i am surprised by is the very low level of coverage this event has received in the mainstream media.
Samevcoverage as air france clght from brazil.. Imo
If the plane were full of americans it would be different
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