10-19-2017, 02:07 PM
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I don't know, I've been here 5 years now and still haven't noticed any substantial difference in hockey enthusiasm vs anywhere else in the USA with a franchise that's over 40 years old. Personally, I think Chicago, Pittsburgh and Detroit are at very least also on the same level as Boston. As for hockey culture (not just NHL) in terms of where the best hockey players come from and how engrained it is in the fabric of families and communities, if your answer isn't Minnesota, you are wrong.
Detroit yes, Pittsburgh, maybe, but Chicago, no. Chicago is not a Hockey town, its a Blackhawks town, there is a difference.
10-19-2017, 02:09 PM
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Detroit yes, Pittsburgh, maybe, but Chicago, no. Chicago is not a Hockey town, its a Blackhawks town, there is a difference.
I guess I don't think Boston is actually a hockey town either. I don't think any American city can genuinely make that claim, not compared to Canadian counterparts at least.
Though I believe I have said this before. No need to rehash old debates.
10-19-2017, 02:17 PM
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I guess I don't think Boston is actually a hockey town either. I don't think any American city can genuinely make that claim, not compared to Canadian counterparts at least.
Massachusetts is #2 in NHL Hockey Players per capita currently. PA isn't even close, about 1/6th, and Illinois is about 1/2. All time, MA is also #2 overall.
NHL Totals by Birth State - 2017-2018*Stats
10-19-2017, 02:59 PM
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Ok. That is not the point I'm making though. The post you responded to actually didn't mention players from states at all.
10-19-2017, 03:36 PM
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Ok. That is not the point I'm making though. The post you responded to actually didn't mention players from states at all.
In terms of how Hockey is ingrained into the culture of the area more so than any outside Minnesota, its a valid reply.
1/3rd of College Hockey is based in New England, 8 in the MSA, 4 in the city. Boston is as much a Hockey town as anywhere in the United States, and more so than Pittsburgh, Chicago, Philly and NYC.
There are also no level that Basketball is more popular other than recreationally. at the HS, College, and Pro Level Hockey is more popular. Just because you ignore it doesn't mean its isn't true.
10-20-2017, 08:31 AM
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Why do these threads exist honestly? You know the narrative that's being pushed. LOOK facts are facts. The NBA is IMMENSELY more popular than NHL. Now you can choose to live in a "Sports Bubble" and cover your eyes and ears and believe NHL has a chance of catching NBA. It doesn't. Everybody posting anecdotal stores doesn't change "Reality". Sorry if that hurts feelings but it's the truth. I don't doubt that Bruins maybe more popular than Celtics in Boston. But what does that even mean? The Celtics are a WORLDWIDE brand and the NBA has worldwide stars. NHL just doesn't.
You can't change the fact that a huge amount of the population in this country doesn't even know NHL exists.
Data suggests that LIGA MX beats NHL in television ratings :
http://worldsoccertalk.com/2017/01/2...numbers-us-tv/
Torino is much more popular than Juventus in Torino but what does that even mean. Nothing really.
Ratings Reality Check:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dai...tober-17-2017/
The NBA is beating playoff baseball between the dodgers and cubs. If you don't like the NBA just say you don't like the sport but be objective. I get tired of the "I used to watch the NBA" trope. Who cares? The NBA has replaced your fandom with NEW fandom. In other words they really don't need you because
Another Ratings reality Check:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/tv-r...ls-1202464230/
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10-20-2017, 08:44 AM
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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In terms of how Hockey is ingrained into the culture of the area more so than any outside Minnesota, its a valid reply.
Nobody cares about college hockey in this city! Students putting on their BU jerseys and getting drunk vefore and after games. Its what tjey do becsuse there isnt a football team. The average student couldnt tell you what icing is. I know the few hockey fans around love to talk it up. The average person on the street does not care at all. Honestly. I love hockey and have been severely disappointed by the lack of hockey culture here. I expected to find it here but it's really just like any other American city.
Continue to deny obvious reality if you want. Nobody can stop you.
10-20-2017, 08:48 AM
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Why do these threads exist honestly? You know the narrative that's being pushed. LOOK facts are facts. The NBA is IMMENSELY more popular than NHL. Now you can choose to live in a "Sports Bubble" and cover your eyes and ears and believe NHL has a chance of catching NBA. It doesn't. Everybody posting anecdotal stores doesn't change "Reality". Sorry if that hurts feelings but it's the truth. I don't doubt that Bruins maybe more popular than Celtics in Boston. But what does that even mean? The Celtics are a WORLDWIDE brand and the NBA has worldwide stars. NHL just doesn't.
You can't change the fact that a huge amount of the population in this country doesn't even know NHL exists.
Data suggests that LIGA MX beats NHL in television ratings :
Liga MX continues to generate monster viewing numbers on US TV - World Soccer Talk
Torino is much more popular than Juventus in Torino but what does that even mean. Nothing really.
Ratings Reality Check:
Tuesday cable ratings: ‘American Horror Story’ holds steady, MLB Playoffs and NBA lead – TV By The Numbers by zap2it.com
The NBA is beating playoff baseball between the dodgers and cubs. If you don't like the NBA just say you don't like the sport but be objective. I get tired of the "I used to watch the NBA" trope. Who cares? The NBA has replaced your fandom with NEW fandom. In other words they really don't need you because
Another Ratings reality Check:
TV Ratings: NBA Finals Is Most Watched Since 1998 – Variety
Because this is about the Boston area, not Atlanta or Dallas.
10-20-2017, 08:53 AM
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Nobody cares about college hockey in this city! Students putting on their BU jerseys and getting drunk vefore and after games. Its what tjey do becsuse there isnt a football team. The average student couldnt tell you what icing is. I know the few hockey fans around love to talk it up. The average person on the street does not care at all. Honestly. I love hockey and have been severely disappointed by the lack of hockey culture here. I expected to find it here but it's really just like any other American city.
That because you live in Brighton and work in academia so you are surrounded by people from not Boston.
Some games at the Beanpot, Frozen Fenwayand some HEA championship games exceed the combined student population of these schools. More than any College Bball event can say.
The numbers support my argument.
10-20-2017, 09:05 AM
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Because this is about the Boston area, not Atlanta or Dallas.
Okay, i thought this was just about popularity. I didn't know this thread was about Local TV ratings and Local fans. I thought this was about Celtics vs Bruins as in the state of the "institutions".
If that's the case than the Turin analogy is most appropriate. In Boston with the population of ( 600,000) there exists more fandom of the Bruins just like in Turin with a population of (800,000) there exists more fandom for Torino than Juventus but ONLY using that small sample size. If we were to extrapolate into a national level then it's not even close
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People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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