California leads the nation — in poverty (San Jose, Oakland: credit, earthquake)

[Kevroqs]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

Good for them, I hope millions leave.

*Wants millions of Californians to leave while replacing them with millions of illegals that are poor and might depend on government benefits.

[majoun]

Texas is still a land of opportunity and Harvey has not changed that. Houston is resilient and will bounce back. Greg Abbott and Sylvester Turner did not make the same mistakes of sitting on their behinds like Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin did after Katrina wreaked havoc on New Orleans.

Meanwhile Los Angeles has never recovered its can-do spirit of opportunity that it had before the riots, even as it has filled with new construction, and even as crime - while higher than it has been since Bush left office - is considerably lower than the '90s. It is no longer as much of a place where the American dream is built, while the Texas cities more than ever are where the American dream is taking shape before our eyes.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by Kevdawgg

*Wants millions of Californians to leave while replacing them with millions of illegals that are poor and might depend on government benefits.

As long as housing goes down I don't care if nk nukes us.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by majoun

Texas is still a land of opportunity and Harvey has not changed that. Houston is resilient and will bounce back. Greg Abbott and Sylvester Turner did not make the same mistakes of sitting on their behinds like Kathleen Blanco and Ray Nagin did after Katrina wreaked havoc on New Orleans.

Meanwhile Los Angeles has never recovered its can-do spirit of opportunity that it had before the riots, even as it has filled with new construction, and even as crime - while higher than it has been since Bush left office - is considerably lower than the '90s. It is no longer as much of a place where the American dream is built, while the Texas cities more than ever are where the American dream is taking shape before our eyes.

Housing prices and gdp per capita in Los Angeles disprove that.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

Housing prices and gdp per capita in Los Angeles disprove that.

Per capita income in L.A. County is as low as in the ironically named Yolo County (the exact opposite of what that name suggests) and is less than all the other SoCal counties except for Riverside, San Bernardino, and Imperial. It is considerably less than Travis County, Texas (Austin) and is less than Harris County (Houston).

[TXstate0fmind]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

It's certainly not foggy damp and cold in the summer in Sacramento, you must be confusing it with somewhere else

Sorry to confuse you. I was speaking of San Fransico and much of the Bay Area. The weather in Sacramento was mentioned so I understand the confusion. I will say though that the tule fog in winter can be brutal in Sacramento. Point is every place has it's drawbacks when it comes to weather.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by majoun

Per capita income in L.A. County is as low as in the ironically named Yolo County (the exact opposite of what that name suggests) and is less than all the other SoCal counties except for Riverside, San Bernardino, and Imperial. It is considerably less than Travis County, Texas (Austin) and is less than Harris County (Houston).

But it's grown, and median income has risen. There is economic growth out the wazoo

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by TXstate0fmind

Sorry to confuse you. I was speaking of San Fransico and much of the Bay Area. The weather in Sacramento was mentioned so I understand the confusion. I will say though that the tule fog in winter can be brutal in Sacramento. Point is every place has it's drawbacks when it comes to weather.

The fog is extremely pleasant, it's like free air conditioning

[TXstate0fmind]

Originally Posted by Perma Bear

The fog is extremely pleasant, it's like free air conditioning

Glad you like it.

I did not like an entire summer of fog living on 48th Avenue in SF or needing heavy jackets and blankets to attend baseball games in July in both San Francisco and Oakland.

Civilized areas build stadiums with retractable roofs.

[Perma Bear]

Originally Posted by TXstate0fmind

Glad you like it.

I did not like an entire summer of fog living on 48th Avenue in SF or needing heavy jackets and blankets to attend baseball games in July in both San Francisco and Oakland.

Civilized areas build stadiums with retractable roofs.

Civilized areas don't need FEMA to rescue them