Coronavirus (ambulance, ski resort, crime)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Keep coming up with excuses as to why this can't be done, rather than trying to solve a problem. Guess what, things won't get any better with this type of attitude.

If you would stop living in your Republican "do-nothing" bubble, you might actually be able to be part of the solution.

Way to completely avoid the questions (typical..) probably because you actually know it's not a realistic "solution". But go ahead and keep deflecting with your off-base partisan jabs as your narrative crumbles around you.

How is keeping vaccine shots from people that desperately need them being "part of the solution"?

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

Way to completely avoid the questions (typical..) probably because you actually know it's not a realistic "solution". But go ahead and keep deflecting with your off-base partisan jabs as your narrative crumbles around you.

Reducing the spread with mask wearing is realistic. As I've pointed multiple times, Asian countries do this well. Sure, they've had slip ups but this is a way to quickly bring down the spread and keep it at a manageable number.

Of course, this won't work for you because you don't want to wear a mask at the gym. Nevermind the fact that you're protecting others in the community, if its a minor inconvenience for you, it's unacceptable.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Reducing the spread with mask wearing is realistic. As I've pointed multiple times, Asian countries do this well. Sure, they've had slip ups but this is a way to quickly bring down the spread and keep it at a manageable number.

Of course, this won't work for you because you don't want to wear a mask at the gym. Nevermind the fact that you're protecting others in the community, if its a minor inconvenience for you, it's unacceptable.

If that was the case then places with mask mandates would have some of the lowest spread wouldn't they? Yet that's not happening and there is no strong correlation with it. Again with reality vs theory.

Everyone has the tools to protect themselves much better than a mask ever could. If they choose not to that's on them. You're just virtue signaling now.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

If that was the case then places with mask mandates would have some of the lowest spread wouldn't they? Yet that's not happening and there is no strong correlation with it. Again with reality vs theory.

Everyone has the tools to protect themselves much better than a mask ever could. If they choose not to that's on them.

Because people aren't wearing them properly, or at all. If people ignore mask mandates and continue congregating with others without them, guess what, there will be more spread. Surprised that you can't comprehend this.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by As Above So Below...

"Monica Gandhi, MD, MPH, an infectious disease expert and a professor at the University of California, San Francisco, has been saying throughout the pandemic that COVID-19 will devolve into a seasonal nuisance like the common cold and influenza.

Right....eventually. Who knows when that will be?

So what happens next? In some populations, enough people will get vaccinated to achieve something like herd immunity. In others, it will burn through the population until everyone’s had it, and either achieves naturally gained immunity (which confers less long-term protection than vaccination) or dies. People still die from influenza and HIV in the United States; a disease becoming endemic isn’t exactly a happy ending.

In a perfect world, COVID would go away entirely; with that possibility almost certainly off the table, an attenuated strain that displaces the Delta variant and turns COVID into an illness that rarely requires hospitalization is perhaps the best we can hope for at this point.

A combination of vaccine-and naturally-gained immunity, attenuation, availability of rapid testing, and improvements in treatment for active cases could turn it into what skeptics wrongly called it to begin with: a bad cold or flu.

https://www.latimes.com/science/stor...-the-last-ones

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

Because people aren't wearing them properly, or at all. If people ignore mask mandates and continue congregating with others without them, guess what, there will be more spread. Surprised that you can't comprehend this.

You keep making excuses and seem completely ignorant to how the real world works and functions. Pretty much every country has faced surging cases at some point no matter what mask or vaccine mandates have been in place.

[goodheathen]

More than 37,000 new cases reported by Los Angeles, where from my observation less than a third of masks worn are KN95 or better.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

You keep making excuses and seem completely ignorant to how the real world works and functions. Pretty much every country has faced surging cases at some point no matter what mask or vaccine mandates have been in place.

And yet the US ranks dead last for number of cases and our trends are terrible. The reason why it's not working is because of stubborn people like yourself who refuse to do what it takes to make a positive difference. And you are calling me ignorant. The pot is calling the kettle black.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by sav858

Then they should stay home once they start developing symptoms like people did before with most viruses/infections. Now we just have a bunch of people without any symptoms using up scarce tests and keeping them from people that actually need it. And yet they still delude themselves into thinking testing without any symptoms means they are "caring about others" lol. These same hypochondriacs are clogging up ER's unnecessarily too.

The spread seems independent of symptoms and is exponential, meaning one sick employee can quickly take others out of service. If many people with Omicron are developing symptoms, which can inconveniently crop up at any hour, might as well tell anyone who tests positive or is feverish or coughing a ton or resides with someone who is to stay home for a few days (which might be outside the work week). By late this month, there should be a major drop in cases, and maybe soon after more treatments available to the general population. Plus, more people will be boosted.

People going unnecessarily to the ER is for the government to address. Complaining about it here won't stop any worrywarts from doing that.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

And yet the US ranks dead last for number of cases and our trends are terrible. The reason why it's not working is because of stubborn people like yourself who refuse to do what it takes to make a positive difference. And you are calling me ignorant. The pot is calling the kettle black.

Because we're the third most populated country in the world. You really believe the case numbers coming out of China and India? Per Capita we're not the worst in the world and right now plenty of other countries are doing worse; Australia, France, UK, etc.. But you probably didn't know that because like during this entire pandemic you've never actually looked at the data. Name one country where it has worked?

And what exactly am I refusing to do? Instead of facing reality all you do is want to blame others from your little soap box.