Why do people still want to live in California? (San Jose: unemployment rate, sales tax)

[Unsettomati]

Originally Posted by Finper

It’s a 11/2 hour flight from Boise to the beach in OC. That’s practically a drive from Pasadena to Santa Monica beach in traffic.

Originally Posted by Finper

Security is a breeze in Boise. 15 min max from parking lot to gate. If I have someone pick me up at John Wayne and drive straight to Newport Beach I could do it in 2 or 21/2 hour. I like your idea about Cabo though I always have a blast there.

Of course, you know this isn't true. Yet for some reason, you're peddling it.

*BOI-SNA (or any other airport in SoCal - Allegiant only flies to SNA twice/week) - is ~2+ hours, gate to gate. [by the way, not sure why you picked SNA since LAX is literally on the beach, but hey, you do you]
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...028Z/KBOI/KLAX
*Plus arriving at the airport at least an hour before the flight (and be through baggage/TSA by the 45-minutes-prior-to-departure requirement).
*Plus travel to the airport.
*Plus de-boarding and grabbing your bag (~30 minutes).
*Plus an Uber from SNA to Newport Beach, another 30 minutes (yeah, it's only nine miles, but it's 'in traffic' - just like your Pasadena-Santa Monica scenario).

So that's four hours, plus whatever time it takes you to get to BOI.

Do you find this highly entertaining, making claims that are obvious nonsense?

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by Unsettomati

Of course, you know this isn't true. Yet for some reason, you're peddling it.

*BOI-SNA (or any other airport in SoCal - Allegiant only flies to SNA twice/week) - is ~2+ hours, gate to gate. [by the way, not sure why you picked SNA since LAX is literally on the beach, but hey, you do you]
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...028Z/KBOI/KLAX
*Plus arriving at the airport at least an hour before the flight (and be through baggage/TSA by the 45-minutes-prior-to-departure requirement).
*Plus travel to the airport.
*Plus de-boarding and grabbing your bag (~30 minutes).
*Plus an Uber from SNA to Newport Beach, another 30 minutes (yeah, it's only nine miles, but it's 'in traffic' - just like your Pasadena-Santa Monica scenario).

So that's four hours, plus whatever time it takes you to get to BOI.

Do you find this highly entertaining, making claims that are obvious nonsense?

Ah but you're forgetting you gain an hour going from Boise to CA so only 3ish hours time wise.

But seriously pasadena to newport doesnt even have to be 1.5 hrs either depending on what time you leave. what a Boise should be compared to are inland cities like fresno or bakersfield and their access to the beach. reaching on this one Finper

[Gaylord_Focker]

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Ah but you're forgetting you gain an hour going from Boise to CA so only 3ish hours time wise.

But seriously pasadena to newport doesnt even have to be 1.5 hrs either depending on what time you leave. what a Boise should be compared to are inland cities like fresno or bakersfield and their access to the beach. reaching on this one Finper

And then you will also have to rent lodging, vehicle and last I checked flights still aren’t free? So yea I’ll stick to the coasts if I want beach access.


Also I’ve found California beaches to be really clean

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Thekdog

These are usually absolute dumps.

They are? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...25692238_zpid/

https://www.trulia.com/p/ca/fullerto...0#lil-mediaTab

Originally Posted by Thekdog

You can also drive to Santa Clarita or to Claremont and you'll save maybe $100k

Not in Claremont. Median listing price for a 2 BR, 2 BA condo is $716,975.

[done working]

Originally Posted by Finper

It’s a 11/2 hour flight from Boise to the beach in OC. That’s practically a drive from Pasadena to Santa Monica beach in traffic.

Originally Posted by DabOnEm

Ah but you're forgetting you gain an hour going from Boise to CA so only 3ish hours time wise.

But seriously pasadena to newport doesnt even have to be 1.5 hrs either depending on what time you leave. what a Boise should be compared to are inland cities like fresno or bakersfield and their access to the beach. reaching on this one Finper

if you leave a 2 am you might make it in a hour.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by NearFantastica

California is very urbanized and full of sprawl spreading out everywhere, which means not many rural cities that can be had for cheap

So in other states rural cities aren't the result of sprawl, they just pop up in the middle of nowhere for no apparent reason and they are cheap because everyone wants to live in one, right?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

It’s a 11/2 hour flight from Boise to the beach in OC. That’s practically a drive from Pasadena to Santa Monica beach in traffic.

BOI to SNA It's actually a 1 hour 53 minute flight. So, arrive at BOI 60-90 minutes before flight to check in and go through security screening. And you still have to get to the beach, wait to deplane and get luggage, rent a car (SNA to Laguna Beach is a 20 minute drive) Yay! You are finally on the beach, the only problem is that by the time you get there that 1.5 hours has morphed into 4 or 5 hours.

[Gaylord_Focker]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

BOI to SNA It's actually a 1 hour 53 minute flight. So, arrive at BOI 60-90 minutes before flight to check in and go through security screening. And you still have to get to the beach, wait to deplane and get luggage, rent a car (SNA to Laguna Beach is a 20 minute drive) Yay! You are finally on the beach, the only problem is that by the time you get there that 1.5 hours has morphed into 4 or 5 hours.

Yes and then you do the same on the way back. You’ve paid for a round trip flight, hotel and car rentals. If you’re gonna do that May as well live here. I suspect finper is trolling

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by blameyourself

Way to reduce things to the ridiculous to try and make your comment more palatable by throwing out areas like Barstow or claiming areas are hot and dusty if you don't live directly in a city (sorry, it's not). Not everyone needs to live next to a beach either (I can't believe we're back to that nonsense). CA4Now mentioned Fullerton. I have friends that live in Folsom. There are plenty of safe, nice neighborhoods that don't go for the $800k amount you listed. And what amenities are we talking about? All these areas have clothing and groceries stores, spas, restaurants, etc. Yeah there might not be 3 star rated Michelin restaurants but those aren't the places most people frequent much anyway. Same goes for things like the opera/symphony or art galleries. Personally, I'd rather not deal with the hustle and bustle of a city and am quite comfortable living a little distance away. Jobs haven't been much of a problem in that respect either (not to mention that many companies still have WFH) so it's not like you have to be right next door to a major metropolis. Hell, when I lived in the Bay Area I lived just over 10 minutes away from the beach and probably went there one time every 10 years. And once I stopped working in the city, I really didn't head out there very often. There was no need as I could get everything I needed in the suburbs. And typically, the closer you are to a city, the less you get for your money in regards to housing.

The average cost of a house in Fullerton is over 900k so an 800k condo is pretty typical. This is Orange County after all. Sacramento valley is no doubt cheaper somewhat but there’s often a problem getting good jobs. If you’re closer to retirement and have hundreds of thousands down for a home you can offset this though. I personally don’t love that area and the weather is pretty hot and dusty and Sacramento is pretty bland.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Gaylord_Focker

Yes and then you do the same on the way back. You’ve paid for a round trip flight, hotel and car rentals. If you’re gonna do that May as well live here. I suspect finper is trolling

Finper trolling?