Tesla is opening its global engineering headquarters in California after Elon Musk left the state in a huff 2 years ago (Palo Alto: rent, houses)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Gantz

Austin's Tesla campus expansion is much bigger. They just filed to add 1.7 million sq ft of additional space in Austin in 2023.

wow such a massive call center.

[18Montclair]

Yeah, I remember when this story came out a few weeks ago. Tesla took over that property in Palo Alto to set up an AI office and I remember thinking, that's an awfully big space for a recruiting office.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tec...ruit-AI-talent

But now we know that this spot was meant to be the heart of the entire company's engineering division, even calling it a HQ no less. Just bizarre.

[sav858]

The obsession with Musk continues.....lol

[DabOnEm]

Originally Posted by apple92680

California has been the most pro-EV state and been at the forefront of the solar/green movement.

Texas has ridiculed it and fought it every step of the way. They want the status of the headquarters and the masthead credit it brings, but they've shown no real commitment to environmental principles or addressing climate change.

Let's not pretend otherwise.

You might want to back this up with some facts. For example, Texas produces the most wind power of any state and far more than California, while also having 3x its population getting their source of energy from wind power than CA). Right now, Houston is leading the way with green energy as many of those energy giants down there have been flipping the script the last couple years reinventing themselves. they aren't the same archaic 80s oil companies that's for sure.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/04/us-wind-electricity-generation-renewable-energy/

Tesla opening up a new BA office is nothing more than doing exactly what they said when they moved the main HQ to Austin.

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by sav858

The obsession with Musk continues.....lol

Who's "obsessed" ????

By his actions, he has made himself a very public figure who's own decisions are worthy of discussion.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by apple92680

Who's "obsessed" ????

By his actions, he has made himself a very public figure who's own decisions are worthy of discussion.

The OP and people like him. Yeah he likes attention and people give it to him, I'm very aware of that.

[wac_432]

This is good news for California, no matter how you slice it. We WANT to be the clean, green, wealthy engineering/tech hub while Texas and Florida stay the centers for manufacturing: heavy industry, low regulation, low wages, and high pollution. They are basically the Chinas of America.

All winds have been blowing in CA’s favor for a long time, and it’s not hard to see why. It’s great here, and crappy there. The statehouse needs some (most) of its more radical social justice initiatives reined in, prop 47 needs to be reversed, and we need legislators who recognize that decent housing is not created by government fiat; it is made by fewer laws, not more.

As I’ve been saying--and captains of industry like Musk know--the 500,000 leaving CA are not the talented engineers, thinkers, makers, and doers.

I was recently in Taiwan talking to a TSMC engineer about the huge semiconductor manufacturing plant being built in Arizona, near Phoenix. He said that the biggest issue they are having is finding local talent. No matter how many incentives they offer, very few of the skilled workforce at the current TSMC in Taiwan is willing to move to Arizona. The minimal regulations, low taxes, and “business-friendly-environment” look great on paper to the high muckety-mucks. They get flown over during the month when AZ isn’t a state-shaped blast furnace, walked around the campus of the university full of students (who can’t wait to get themselves gone), and reassure themselves that it will be fine to put a massive high-tech operation here, rather than in over-regulated California.

Then again, the Taiwanese may be playing the long game with TSMC’s AZ factory. Maybe the point was never to make good chips in the first place. If that venture fails, Taiwan remains a lynchpin to the global economy--of the West at least--reducing the chance that China tries to bomb it into submission like Russia is doing to Ukraine.

[Californiaguy2007]

This is awesome news and California is the State of Innovation,but if California does not step up it's game,Texas aka Leeching State will use it to it's advantage which it has for quite some time in luring more and more of our Major Companies to their state.

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Palo Alto again, their former HQ. LOL I would have preferred he and his company stayed in Austin but I guess he knows where the EV industry's best and brightest engineers live.

https://fortune.com/2023/02/22/tesla...ent-relations/

He’s no longer being shutdown by Alameda county. He originally left because Alameda county shut his factory down during covid.

He got another massive tax break to return. Him leaving and coming back saved Tesla a massive amount of money. But the HQ thing is nonsense anyway because there will still be offices in both locations.

[Vision67]

At 1:34 into this video you can see Dave Packard's and Bill Hewlett's offices as they originally were in the 60s.

Although I'm not a fan of Elon's politics, I really do admire the engineering of Tesla cars and Space-X rockets.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsTi...HomeWithSharon