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Seems Quebec wants to separate from Canada yet keep all the benefits of being Canadaian. i would think if Quebec voted to separate Canadian attitudes would be such that those benefits would be terminated in short order.
However IMO Quebec calling for a referendum on separation is akin to talking the talk,actually voting to separate would be akin to walking the walk,something most separatists wont do as they know what side their bread is buttered on.
Seems Quebec wants to separate from Canada yet keep all the benefits of being Canadaian. i would think if Quebec voted to separate Canadian attitudes would be such that those benefits would be terminated in short order.
However IMO Quebec calling for a referendum on separation is akin to talking the talk,actually voting to separate would be akin to walking the walk,something most separatists wont do as they know what side their bread is buttered on.
Anything new to say Jambo? These seem to be the same arguments from November 1976...
Anything new to say Jambo? These seem to be the same arguments from November 1976...
Rather pompous of you to think i'm submitting posts just for you to read..
That said whats your take on the upcoming provincial election, will the separatists get their majority? if they do do you have any doubt about a call for a forthcoming referendum on Quebec sovereignty, and how will you vote in both cases?
let me guess you'll vote for Pauline but you wont vote for separation..
I'll also vote for Pauline and will vote for Quebec separation.
Seems Quebec wants to separate from Canada yet keep all the benefits of being Canadaian. i would think if Quebec voted to separate Canadian attitudes would be such that those benefits would be terminated in short order.
However IMO Quebec calling for a referendum on separation is akin to talking the talk,actually voting to separate would be akin to walking the walk,something most separatists wont do as they know what side their bread is buttered on.
I have trouble with " Seems Quebec wants to separate" . We are talking one political party, with polls stating 42 percent want to separate.
This of course can change. I personally don't believe there should even be a referendum UNTIL all the details of what separation entails is laid out. The belief that Quebec can keep passports, sit on the Bank of Canada board and expect no border controls is what is being used to sell it.
If people knew and understood, ON BOTH SIDES, what separation actually meant, then have the referendum. Otherwise you are selling dreams or nightmares.
No more of Quebec wagging the dog. I will be happy to see them go.
You might want to run that checklist through an editor who would actually try to make it sound like you do not want us to go. I am not a separatist, and your list would hurt my cause.
For what it's worth, we do not get CPP payments here. The QPP is an independently funded (and run) entity.
You might want to run that checklist through an editor who would actually try to make it sound like you do not want us to go. I am not a separatist, and your list would hurt my cause.
For what it's worth, we do not get CPP payments here. The QPP is an independently funded (and run) entity.
These are the details that are missing in a lot of discussions on this issue. Most, I'll include myself, are ignorant on all the realities. Emotions, seem to rule the debate.
Marois is off her rocker thinking that an independent Quebec would ever get a seat on the Bank of Canada. She is either very stupid or she thinks Quebecers are very stupid.
Marois is off her rocker thinking that an independent Quebec would ever get a seat on the Bank of Canada. She is either very stupid or she thinks Quebecers are very stupid.
She just doesn't care. Like so many other Separatists I've talked to, they simply look at the next bend in the road without any thought to the realities of tomorrow.
Some more points to ponder.
If Quebec separates i wonder what the attitude would be from the rest of Canada and how much Canada would be willing to help this fledgling country,
My opinion would be that Canada and Canadians would be pissed off and wouldnt be eager to do business with Quebec.
IMO Just as Canada belongs to all Quebecers so Quebec belongs to all Canadians and isnt Quebecs to leave with, to just declare that we as Quebecers are going to take this large chunk of Canada and become our own country with it is going to leave a very sour attitude with most Canadians.
In a declaration of independence Quebec will shirk its responsibility to the national debt,it will claim all federal assets for itself, hopefully it cant nationalize and freeze monies in banks in Quebec and it will self righteously give the middle finger to Canada.
Lawyers will make out big time for many years deciding what Quebec is actually entitled to leave with i very much doubt they will be allowed to leave Canada with the borders that are in place now and will ultimately end up with a map looking something like this= http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...erences%29.png
This post does bring to surface the legal basis of a vote for Quebec Separation by the people of Quebec. Is that enough? Is it a vote that all Canadians can partake in or is just the people of Quebec. If they (The people of Quebec) do vote for independence, I think that it would only be the beginning of a huge legal battle back and forth. Does this mean other Provinces can also hold their own votes for secession based on Provincial laws giving them the legal right as well. At what point is Canada a part of this whole thing.. last I looked it involves us too.
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