08-11-2014, 10:53 AM
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Hello folks, new here..looking for advice on which station to park at for downtown touring!
Forest Park is the closest, but it looks like that train just derailed, although no injuries, but people say it's unsafe etc. We'll probably only be on the train in the morning 8am ish and at night, maybe 8-9pm. Are those safe enough hours? I'll be travelling with my mother and two sisters so don't want them to be traumatized.
I'm staying near Yorktown Center.
I'm renting the vehicle that I'll be parking at the station, which might be a Toyota Camry. Obviously, I'll make sure no valuables are left present in the vehicle. I can drive to another station if needed.
I was also thinking about driving downtown on the Sunday that we're there. Is it a calm enough day to park dt and roam around? Reason is that, I'll need to drive anyways to visit the Botanical gardens.
TIA!
JT
08-11-2014, 11:25 AM
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Just park at the Lombard or Downers Grove Metra station and take a Metra train into the Chicago Loop:
Metra Chicago . From the Loop Metra hub, you can easily transfer to any CTA bus/train or you can walk/cab to whatever attractions are on your list. I wouldn't worry about safety on such a journey.
Why go up to the Chicago Botanic Gardens? That commute will be brutal from Yorktown/Lombard!
There are similar options closer to where you will be staying:
Cantigny Park in Wheaton
Morton Aboretum in Lisle
Garfield Park Conservatory in the Garfield Park neighborhood of Chicago (just don't stray off the road that connects the gardens to the highway)
...unless the botanic gardens trip is for a wedding or something...
08-11-2014, 12:07 PM
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Thanks man! I like Cantigny Park and and Garfield as they are much closer and cheap! I didn't look into Metra because I figured I'd park at one of the lots on the CTA line. We were looking into getting a 3-day pass for the CTA to use, while we're there. We'll be using it Sun-Tues, inclusive.
Three endpoints that we have in Chicago so far is Navi Pier, Field Museum and the Willis Tower. I'm guessing, we'd explore within those areas and they are all walkable, but to save time and relax, we'd hop on the bus/train there.
08-11-2014, 12:20 PM
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The Metra will be much quicker/easier/quieter/cleaner/safer than trying to drive to a far-away CTA stop and going in from there. Metra sells discounted 10-ride tickets, as well as an unlimited Weekend Pass.
If it were me: I would park at the Lombard Metra and ride into Olgilvie Station in the Loop. From there, I would walk one block east to the Chicago River/Madison Street Bridge, hop on a
Chicago Water Taxi to Mag Mile/Michigan Ave, and from there catch a
Navy Pier Trolley (see also:
Trolley Info ) to Navy Pier. After Navy Pier, use the trolley to get back to a CTA bus/train stop and continue on with your sight-seeing.
An interesting historical connection, if you do visit Cantigny Park: the imposing
Tribune Tower that is at the junction of Michigan Avenue and the Chicago River (where the water taxi stop is located as well as the trolley pick-up) was commissioned by
Colonel Robert R. McCormick whose former estate in Wheaton is now Cantigny Park.
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08-11-2014, 01:09 PM
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You can also take the Cermak rd/22nd st. bus that goes to the pink line in Cicero. Hop on the pink line and it will take you downtown. I am not sure what the stops are on that bus and whether it goes out as far as Lombard. I do know it goes from Oakbrook shopping center cause I saw it a few days ago.
08-11-2014, 01:33 PM
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I don't know why you'd do anything other than ride the Metra from Lombard. The CTA is more for serving city neighborhood and just a few inner suburban stops. Metra actually goes from Lombard to the Loop.
08-11-2014, 03:14 PM
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I thought the CTA is the best way to go once in the city? Hence, that's why I'm ok with driving to a CTA station to park and ride. I'm coming from Toronto, where public transit sucks big time so driving half the trip to get to a station isn't a far fetched idea
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I can't find any info on parking fees for Lombard Metra.
A weekend pass isn't going to help since Sunday would be the only weekend that we'd use it. The 10-ride looks like the 1-way *10? Where's the discount?! Metra seems quite expensive $4.75 one-way, $9.50 pp/day. A CTA weekend pass would cost $20 pp + $5 parking fee.
Are my fare calculations correct? If it costs $4.75 to get to dt from Lombard, then a weekend pass for one day alone is worth it. Doesn't seem to make sense :S.
08-11-2014, 03:59 PM
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I stand corrected. I thought the 10-ride passes were sold at a discount versus single fares.
CTA is decent for getting around once you are in the city. There are other, more scenic options like the water taxi and trolley I mentioned earlier, as well as more pure alternatives like
Uber and
Divvy Bikes . If you're coming all the way from Lombard, it just makes logistical sense to utilize Metra for the trip in. But if you're worried about saving every last penny, I don't know....
I suppose you'd have to account for the 13-mile drive from Yorktown to Forest Park, which could take upwards of 30 minutes in traffic and burn 1-1.5 gallons of gas. At the going rate, that's about $3.50-$4.75/one way... $7.00-$9.50/day. Plus the $5.00/day to park at the Forest Park CTA station, and of course the cost of a 3-day CTA pass, which is $6.66/day. That works out to be $18.66/day on the low side -- and it comes with a big ole' headache.
Metra would be $1.50/day to park, plus $9.50/day to ride = $11/day. You could even throw in the 3-day CTA pass (to get around the city) and still be $1.00/day
less than the first scenario.
Make sense?
Plus you'll appreciated the comfort and space of the Metra train cars -- and their lack of pungent body odors and urine covered floors that plague CTA train cars.
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08-12-2014, 09:33 AM
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Thanks man! Yea, I see what you're saying. So I think Lombard Metra it is now!
What are your thoughts on doing attractions in Chicago(Downtown) on Sunday? Would you recommend driving into the city on this day and park somewhere central? I would assume traffic and parking shouldn't be too bad. I was thinking of going to Catigny Park in the morning, then maybe shopping at some outlet mall, then driving downtown to finish off with something that still runs in the night(Navy Pier)?
We would still go downtown on the Mon/Tues, but via the Metra.
08-12-2014, 10:01 AM
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Traffic won't be too bad, and there is nothing wrong with Sunday sightseeing, but parking in the city is
expensive . Expect upwards of $30, depending on the location and length of your park. I would check the Lombard Metra Sunday schedule to see if the times line up with your itinerary:
Metra UP-W Full Schedule . It's just much easier to ride the train and relax/read/write/play/etc. than deal with driving/parking. Plus it's a heckuva lot cheaper.
There is an outlet mall not far down Butterfield Road from Cantigny:
Chicago Premium Outlets . I would advise taking Butterfield Road from Cantigny, not I-88, to avoid paying tolls. The trip is equidistant. You could also take Butterfield on the way back to Yorktown/Lombard to avoid even more tolls. Taking Butterfield on the way back might add about 10 minutes to the trip, but it'll save you a bunch of money.
I'd also recommend getting to Cantigny early and doing both museums (both open at 10am, I'd start with the 1st Division one) -- they are really outstanding -- and free! Bring a camera too: endless beautiful photo ops in the expansive formal gardens...
Hope my info helps, and hope you have a great trip!
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)