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Universalisms are the ones claiming to live up to the love potential through God, claiming to love everyone as they are loved. That they are on a spiritual plane we ALL should be seeking to be. Some sort of God consciousness that encompasses all around them. If this was the case, you all's posts should reflect it, and I think what Cyber is pointing out is, that they do not.
I haven't seen that, i see them proclaiming God IS love, regardless of whether anyone including the Fundy or Uni lives up to it. GOD IS.What you and I do does not change what God IS.
When do we, who do not claim to believe in Universalism, say we are the ones who are infallible? I have never heard Cyber say this?
Universalisms are the ones claiming to live up to the love potential through God, claiming to love everyone as they are loved. That they are on a spiritual plane we ALL should be seeking to be. Some sort of God consciousness that encompasses all around them. If this was the case, you all's posts should reflect it, and I think what Cyber is pointing out is, that they do not.
I agree 100%. I don't even think they realize how arrogant they sound.
Yes, people can read the disdain, contempt, the ugly accusations toward and against the Christian and by such behavior and attitude of this heart shows it is the furtherest thing from God's love that universalism so prominently proclaims here in this forum that they so believe is filling the heart.... and then there are some who we have seen just changed the title of who they follow now, but there has never been a real change of the heart, actually seems meaner then before !!
That to me is the dead give away and testimony of how false universalism is.....
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When do we, who do not claim to believe in Universalism, say we are the ones who are infallible? I have never heard Cyber say this?
Universalisms are the ones claiming to live up to the love potential through God, claiming to love everyone as they are loved. That they are on a spiritual plane we ALL should be seeking to be. Some sort of God consciousness that encompasses all around them. If this was the case, you all's posts should reflect it, and I think what Cyber is pointing out is, that they do not.
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Originally Posted by CantWait2Leave
I agree 100%. I don't even think they realize how arrogant they sound.
When do we, who do not claim to believe in Universalism, say we are the ones who are infallible? I have never heard Cyber say this?
Universalisms are the ones claiming to live up to the love potential through God, claiming to love everyone as they are loved. That they are on a spiritual plane we ALL should be seeking to be. Some sort of God consciousness that encompasses all around them. If this was the case, you all's posts should reflect it, and I think what Cyber is pointing out is, that they do not.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
Yep, that's pretty much what I see too.
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Originally Posted by CantWait2Leave
I agree 100%. I don't even think they realize how arrogant they sound.
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AMEN to all of the above!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will let the lurkers read these to determine where the true arrogance resides. God IS love . . . we are supposed to try to achieve some harmonic resonance with His love. Christian Universalists follow Christ and TRY to obey His commands to "love God and each other" . . . no matter how hard you ET and AN fundies make it.
I will let the lurkers read these to determine where the true arrogance resides. God IS love . . . we are supposed to try to achieve some harmonic resonance with His love. Christian Universalists follow Christ and TRY to obey His commands to "love God and each other" . . . no matter how hard you ET and AN fundies make it.
You are right Mystic.
Dear Universalist friends keep speaking HIGHLY of His Amazing love. After all, is not this the desire of all who are the beloved of this amazing lover.
His mouth is sweetness itself; HE ISaltogether lovely. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.Songs of Solomon 5:16.
Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet [water] and bitter?
There is nothing bitter about the love of Him who IS altogether lovely.
Nothing unlovely could ever be said to come from Him who IS altogether lovely.
If you have seen him who IS altogether lovely you have seen the Father(God)John 14:9
No, Israel, is God's chosen people. ALL of ISRAEL shall be saved. Some Jews will be included, but not all. Read the letters to the churches lately?
So the real question is WHO are those Israelites? Hmmm.
Well, Israel...is what I meant......are you angry about something? I don't know but there seems to be some...tick offedness in your reply. To be honest, I think we need to quit worrying about who this and that are, the representation..the symbols, just confess with your lips, repent, try your best to live a holy life, and leave the rest to the Father. Uh, Yahweh is still in charge you know. Followers of the one and only begotten Son, should really show a little more love.
And P.S. I read scriptures every day, it doesn't mean I have a full understanding however, no more than YOU do. Blessings to you, never the less.
Fair. On the first quote above you asked "If everyone were automatically save,..." I do not know why you wrote that because I never said such thing. Therefore I cannot answer the questions that follow.
All I am saying is that I do not agree with God's logic as portrayed by Bible believers that if you do not believe in Jesus your works do not matter and the example of killing women and children on taking a piece of land.
With this in mind I tend to believe there must be some error somwhere that people come up with this type of logic God has assuming the Bible is the word of God, take care.
It's not what "bible believers" believe, it's what the old and new testaments say....you can read it for yourself. I read somewhere, when you read the Word, (God's Word) with the intention of finding error, you will. I'm not judging you, but if you are a "Christian" then you believe, that the Father, sent His only begotten Son (Jesus, Yeshua), so that who so ever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have eternal life.
I personally, do not know, how to reconcile, what Muslims, Hindus and other faiths/religions believe. All I can do is pray, for my brothers and sisters, of other faiths/religions, cuz I don't have all the answers...and like the Book say.."My ways are not your ways.."
It's not what "bible believers" believe, it's what the old and new testaments say....you can read it for yourself. I read somewhere, when you read the Word, (God's Word) with the intention of finding error, you will. I'm not judging you, but if you are a "Christian" then you believe, that the Father, sent His only begotten Son (Jesus, Yeshua), so that who so ever believes in Him, shall not perish, but have eternal life.
That's right. I don't know why Elamigo says people "come up" with the beliefs, when the Bible repeats the same message to no end.
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