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That love covers a multitudes of sin,that Jesus said if he was lifted up he would draw all men to himself,(now how you interpret this is up to you,but if lifting him helps in the drawing, start lifting him up in faith instead of condemning in your unbelief of the saving ability of God.
"IF" is a big contingency! This has nothing to do with doubting the Saving Ability of God, or God's love. It is about the willingness of people to come to God through Christ to be saved. In an OT parallel, Moses lifted-up the bronze serpent in the wilderness with the all inclusive promise that whoever would look upon it, would be saved. But, not all were willing, and thus, not all were saved.
"If" doesn't modify people being drawn, it modifies Jesus being lifted up. So, has the contingency ("...if I may be lifted up...") been met, or hasn't it? If it has been met, then the promise was that, "I will draw all unto myself".
I have not offered anything to explain who they might be, but I am glad you are able to announce that "I obviously have no idea who they are".
Typical pcamps........
Of cause you have. You mean to say you are willing to give an opinion about the parable, yet claim you haven't indicated who the workers are. You know as well I do who you believe they are. So you explain who the first and last are ?. What about all the ones between the first and last ?. Just trying to help you broaden your mind to help you understand the parable just a little more than your black and white literal view, which so far as come up with no explanation concerning the parable.
Correct as anyone who shows up for work, but does no work, gets no pay.
In the parable all the people in the field worked, but different lengths of time. It does not talk about those who did not show up at all, or those who showed up, but didn't work.
In the parable all the people in the field worked, but different lengths of time. It does not talk about those who did not show up at all, or those who showed up, but didn't work.
Correct, so it ONLY can be applied to those who are active/working in the "field" doing the work assigned. Not onlookers, wannabe's or those with no desire to slave for the Master.
Correct, so it ONLY can be applied to those who are active/working in the "field" doing the work assigned. Not onlookers, wannabe's or those with no desire to slave for the Master.
It talks about those who agreed to work, and who showed up. There is no mention of anyone who agreed to work but didn't work. In other words it has nothing to do how hard they worked, it is only about the duration of their service. Those who were called late, were just as saved as those who were called early. Anyone who responded to the call were saved, which is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
In the parable all the people in the field worked, but different lengths of time. It does not talk about those who did not show up at all, or those who showed up, but didn't work.
You are assuming some were employed elsewhere or some that were unemployed never showed up. There is no doubt about the text that all who were unemployed were given work.
"If" doesn't modify people being drawn, it modifies Jesus being lifted up. So, has the contingency ("...if I may be lifted up...") been met, or hasn't it? If it has been met, then the promise was that, "I will draw all unto myself".
In Scripture "all" is a qualified word, not an absolute with a meaning of all in total/existence. The full context of Jesus words must be considered and not one verse or set of verses only.
(KJV)
Genesis 6:13
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
All flesh did not die in the flood.
(KJV)
Matthew 13:32
32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
It isn't the "least" or tiniest of all seeds on earth, but in the setting he placed the illustration it was the smallest known and grown there. Context.
(KJV)Matthew 17:11
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. Nope he will not restore all things, like death, sin, hatred, Satan, etc. Just "all" that God wants. Context.
Next, many are drawn to Jesus, but still walk away from him when they see what he wants them to do.
It talks about those who agreed to work, and who showed up. There is no mention of anyone who agreed to work but didn't work. In other words it has nothing to do how hard they worked, it is only about the duration of their service. Those who were called late, were just as saved as those who were called early. Anyone who responded to the call were saved, which is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
It is also interesting that the only ones who were employed by agreement were the first employed, the rest were told they would receive what was right,which too is significant in understanding the parable.
You are assuming some were employed elsewhere or some that were unemployed never showed up. There is no doubt about the text that all who were unemployed were given work.
Yes, it is rather obvious they were given work since the parable spells it out. Read the parable of the wedding, if you need more clarity about people being invited, but reject the offer. Not everyone accepts the invitation to work, or a wedding party.
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