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Old 04-15-2014, 09:11 PM
 
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Don't apologize. That started getting really interesting......until you mentioned "married couples".
Oh, sorry to kill the excitement with a marriage reference.
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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Default A psa....

As I walk the halls of CityData and poke my head into the digital Salon where Christianity is being discussed as it relates to 21st century celebration of resurrection and the marketing holiday known as Easter, I pause to reflect and repost an old comment for perspective:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/philo...l#post29942269

As to the timing of Christmas i.e. Christ's birth which someone mentioned earlier, the key is they were collecting taxes about the kingdom and this would have occurred (ironically enough) in April so they adjusted the birth time (for their own pagan co-marketing celebration convenience) , but one thing is for sure, like death (for us mortals) we all pay the tax man!

Celebrate Tax Freedom Day! In my State, I am now earning money for myself - all the prior days work for the year were for the government.

Now where are those chocolate eggs....
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Old 04-15-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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As I walk the halls of CityData and poke my head into the digital Salon where Christianity is being discussed as it relates to 21st century celebration of resurrection and the marketing holiday known as Easter, I pause to reflect and repost an old comment for perspective:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/philo...l#post29942269

As to the timing of Christmas i.e. Christ's birth which someone mentioned earlier, the key is they were collecting taxes about the kingdom and this would have occurred (ironically enough) in April so they adjusted the birth time (for their own pagan co-marketing celebration convenience) , but one thing is for sure, like death (for us mortals) we all pay the tax man!

Celebrate Tax Freedom Day! In my State, I am now earning money for myself - all the prior days work for the year were for the government.

Now where are those chocolate eggs....
I thought the Romans were doing a census, not collecting taxes at the time of Jesus' birth.

Luke 2:1-20 - The Birth of Jesus - In those days - Bible Gateway
Luke 2:1-20 - ESVBible.org - In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered....
scripture (Catholic Bible)

My educated guess is they didn't do this in the winter, but they might have done it in fall, after the harvest.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:44 PM
 
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I thought the Romans were doing a census, not collecting taxes at the time of Jesus' birth.

Luke 2:1-20 - The Birth of Jesus - In those days - Bible Gateway
Luke 2:1-20 - ESVBible.org - In those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered....
scripture (Catholic Bible)

My educated guess is they didn't do this in the winter, but they might have done it in fall, after the harvest.
They were inextricably related, the census was used to provide property related information for taxation purposes. Here is history / summary of the process.

Roman Taxes

Census of Quirinius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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They were inextricably related, the census was used to provide property related information for taxation purposes. Here is history / summary of the process.

Roman Taxes

Census of Quirinius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Wiki article casts doubt on the whole census business, something I have heard before. Not dates are given in either article that would give one any indication of what month of the year Jesus was born.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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The Christian's stole from the Pagans. Originally, there was no celebration of holidays with Christians. Pagans celebrated and enjoyed life. Christians believed the celebration was to come after life. Christ's birthday was set at the winter solstice, because pagan's celebrated at that time, and it was considered a way to garner support for the Christian religion to celebrate Christ's birth at the winter solstice, even though it was believed Christ was born in the spring. Easter was set at the Spring (Vernal) equinox.

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Old 04-18-2014, 01:28 PM
 
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The Christian's stole from the Pagans. Originally, there was no celebration of holidays with Christians. Pagans celebrated and enjoyed life. Christians believed the celebration was to come after life. Christ's birthday was set at the winter solstice, because pagan's celebrated at that time, and it was considered a way to garner support for the Christian religion to celebrate Christ's birth at the winter solstice, even though it was believed Christ was born in the spring. Easter was set at the Spring (Vernal) equinox.
Sigh! We know, we know, and we've known for a long time. Do you have any other "news", like how the Chinese invented fireworks?
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Old 04-18-2014, 03:09 PM
 
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Sigh! We know, we know, and we've known for a long time. Do you have any other "news", like how the Chinese invented fireworks?
Oo oo, I have one! Did you know that you're NOT supposed to use an apostrophe before the "s" when you make a word plural?

Have mercy on me, Lord...
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Old 04-18-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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Oo oo, I have one! Did you know that you're NOT supposed to use an apostrophe before the "s" when you make a word plural?

Have mercy on me, Lord...
There is NO mercy for Grammar Nazis, but a special place in Hell. I'll see if I can sneak you a fan.
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Old 04-19-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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There is NO mercy for Grammar Nazis, but a special place in Hell. I'll see if I can sneak you a fan.
Thanks, you're a pal!
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