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Old 05-21-2014, 05:57 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Only Christ called God his true name. His real name is the Father. He is the Father of all creations. All other names are inaccurate: Jehova, ELohim , Allah, etc are names of angels, not the name of the Almighty.

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FWIW you are mixing salutations with names. None of what you listed are names. Jehova was an attempt by certain Christians to give g-d a name. They took this, tetragrammaton יהוה Yhvh, and created the name from it. The word I underlined is read from right to left. The first letter is a Y, the second letter is a H, the third letter is silent as it is used as a vowel and the fourth letter is a H again. Translated, it is as I listed early.

Also Allah is not a name either. Its a salutuation that comes from Aramaic and is a contraction of two words which are Al Ilah which means the diety.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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FWIW you are mixing salutations with names. None of what you listed are names. Jehova was an attempt by certain Christians to give g-d a name. They took this, tetragrammaton יהוה Yhvh, and created the name from it. The word I underlined is read from right to left. The first letter is a Y, the second letter is a H, the third letter is silent as it is used as a vowel and the fourth letter is a H again. Translated, it is as I listed early.

Also Allah is not a name either. Its a salutuation that comes from Aramaic and is a contraction of two words which are Al Ilah which means the diety.
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Old 05-21-2014, 10:20 PM
 
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Isaiah 65:13 Therefore thus says the Lord God: My servants shall eat, but you shall be hungry; my servants shall drink, but you shall be thirsty; my servants shall rejoice, but you shall be put to shame;
14 my servants shall sing for gladness of heart, but you shall cry out for pain of heart, and shall wail for anguish of spirit.
15 You shall leave your name to my chosen to use as a curse, and the Lord God will put you to death; but to his servants he will give a different name.
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:55 AM
 
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Isaiah 65:13 Therefore thus says the Lord God: My servants shall eat, but you shall be hungry; my servants shall drink, but you shall be thirsty; my servants shall rejoice, but you shall be put to shame;
14 my servants shall sing for gladness of heart, but you shall cry out for pain of heart, and shall wail for anguish of spirit.
15 You shall leave your name to my chosen to use as a curse, and the Lord God will put you to death; but to his servants he will give a different name.
Isaiah 65 - Judgment and Salvation -

This has nothing to go with g-ds name. This has to do with a tribal group name. This was a a forecast. So currently this would cover Palestinians and Israelis. No matter what Palistinians do, their name is seen negatively. They attempt to give their name a positive look, yet their actions show the truth of being negative.
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Old 05-22-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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FWIW you are mixing salutations with names. None of what you listed are names. Jehova was an attempt by certain Christians to give g-d a name. They took this, tetragrammaton יהוה Yhvh, and created the name from it. The word I underlined is read from right to left. The first letter is a Y, the second letter is a H, the third letter is silent as it is used as a vowel and the fourth letter is a H again. Translated, it is as I listed early.
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Christians to give God a name ?________

Doesn't the Tetragrammaton [ YHWH ] appear long before Christianity at Psalm 110 v 1 ?_______

KJV often replaces the Tetragrammaton with LORD [ in all upper-case letters] , whereas Lord [ Not all capitals ] stands for the Lord Jesus at Psalm 110 v 1. The Tetragrammaton goes way back to the Hebrew Scriptures starting with Genesis. [ Gen. 22 v 14 ]
KJV does use the accepted English pronunciation of God's name at Psalm 83 v 18.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:33 AM
 
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Christians to give God a name ?________

Doesn't the Tetragrammaton [ YHWH ] appear long before Christianity at Psalm 110 v 1 ?_______

KJV often replaces the Tetragrammaton with LORD [ in all upper-case letters] , whereas Lord [ Not all capitals ] stands for the Lord Jesus at Psalm 110 v 1. The Tetragrammaton goes way back to the Hebrew Scriptures starting with Genesis. [ Gen. 22 v 14 ]
KJV does use the accepted English pronunciation of God's name at Psalm 83 v 18.
YHWH -> the W does not exist to make a sound other than being a vowel. Thus trying to pronounce it is YHUH or YHOH. Outside of making the Y sound the rest is a whisper. Using LORD is a salutation and is correct in formal use. For informal use its The Name (HaShem). Thus the Tetragrammaton is to seen only and not uttered.
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Old 05-22-2014, 07:48 AM
 
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Isaiah 65 - Judgment and Salvation -

This has nothing to go with g-ds name. This has to do with a tribal group name. This was a a forecast. So currently this would cover Palestinians and Israelis. No matter what Palistinians do, their name is seen negatively. They attempt to give their name a positive look, yet their actions show the truth of being negative.
Wrong
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Old 05-22-2014, 09:49 AM
 
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Worthless response. If you have something to say, then adult up and state it.
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Peacegiver, and hijc have already given the name, that’s if one know him. Revelation 19:12 " His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
the name is JESUS. see rev 1:10-18. again God name is Jesus. if the book of revelation reveals, then we know. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. he told us even from the old testament. Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. only his people know God name, only his people. again JESUS. but one have to be his people to know that.

and finally without a doubt,
to know the personal name, take the steps of faith to believe.

Step #1. Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Step #2. Matthew 1:18 "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost”.

Step#3. Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. and the only saviour is, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. well that close the case, (for me).

again, ONLY HIS PEOPLE KNOW.

Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

God in flesh, the “diversity”, or the offspring. JESUS is "Lord", (in flesh), and God, (the Holy Spirit), in Spirit. but one have to be his peoples to know that.


Jesus is the, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. but again, only his people know this.


be blessed.
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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Peacegiver, and hijc have already given the name, that’s if one know him. Revelation 19:12 " His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
the name is JESUS. see rev 1:10-18. again God name is Jesus. if the book of revelation reveals, then we know. Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. he told us even from the old testament. Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. only his people know God name, only his people. again JESUS. but one have to be his people to know that.

and finally without a doubt,
to know the personal name, take the steps of faith to believe.

Step #1. Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Step #2. Matthew 1:18 "Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost”.

Step#3. Matthew 1:21 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. and the only saviour is, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. well that close the case, (for me).

again, ONLY HIS PEOPLE KNOW.

Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

God in flesh, the “diversity”, or the offspring. JESUS is "Lord", (in flesh), and God, (the Holy Spirit), in Spirit. but one have to be his peoples to know that.


Jesus is the, Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. but again, only his people know this.


be blessed.
Instead of going through this line by line, here is a link and convert each one back to Hebrew (It'll be in English letters). Then take the Hebrew and google it and you will see what have in Bold is not the true translation.

Orthodox Jewish Bible
BibleGateway.com: Search for a Bible passage in 64 languages and 169 versions.
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