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Old 09-27-2018, 11:11 AM
 
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I do not disagree, but you have little respect for the Apostle Paul, resorting even here to calling him “Paulie”. It’s quite ironic.

As Christians, we must always be in the “mind of Christ”.
Although Paul is about the only first person who is real in the myths the bible discusses, calling him 'Paulie" is perhaps an honorific if this was today's world. He was as slick as any boiler room pusher of worthless stocks, twisty as the worse stereotype of used car salesman, and as greasy as any con man eyeing his mark.

 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:48 AM
 
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Although Paul is about the only first person who is real in the myths the bible discusses, calling him 'Paulie" is perhaps an honorific if this was today's world. He was as slick as any boiler room pusher of worthless stocks, twisty as the worse stereotype of used car salesman, and as greasy as any con man eyeing his mark.
When you post that kind of nonsense, do you really think we believe that you'd actually consider anything Christianity has to offer?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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When you post that kind of nonsense, do you really think we believe that you'd actually consider anything Christianity has to offer?

People who post "that kind of nonsense" were often once Christians themselves.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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So how does one repent and believe, and therefore change their wicked ways, after they have reached room temperature? I believe what you are calling revenge I would define as divine justice.
How does one continue existence after they "have reached room temperature?" What is there that is available for "divine justice" to act upon? Why would what ever it may be NOT be able to change? Are "wicked ways" or attitudes limited to active human bodies? Why?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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The two Greek terms translated by this phrase refer to the passive and active partners in consensual homosexual acts. I'm no baseball scholar, but I can tell the difference between the pitcher and the catcher.
But there are more than just the pitcher and catcher in the game of life, just like baseball.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 11:58 AM
 
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When you post that kind of nonsense, do you really think we believe that you'd actually consider anything Christianity has to offer?
I'm pretty sure you have got the sense that I see nothing that christianity can offer, other than a mythology that has some teachings, some of which are horrible and should be consigned to the trash heap of other horrible mythologies, along with some mythologies that have some positive messages.

I've felt that way since I first heard bible stories being read in grade one. I've stated this before, I viewed them the same as the Grimm Brothers tales my mother read to me at the same time, fairy tales that I couldn't wait to hear what happened next. And they had about the same effect on me. Stories, not anything else.

Later on, from grade 6-12 I went to a catholic school, as it was the only one in our are. Had to sit through the catechism, and it again had incredible mythological stories, ones I wondered how could anyone think they were real.

I haven't changed my mind at 67 to any of this.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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YES HE DID..BUT the C O N T E X T was the topic of DIVORCE, not HOMOSEXUALITY...

Divorce

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When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan.

2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’

5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?

6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.

9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”

11 Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.

12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
I’m aware of that, but does it not serve as God’s definition of marriage?
 
Old 09-27-2018, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The few christians that are here are treated very well,as they also treat others the same, the other Pharisaical christians...well, that is indeed another issue...
According to the rules here, anyone who claims to be Christian should be held as such.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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According to the rules here, anyone who claims to be Christian should be held as such.
 
Old 09-27-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I’m aware of that, but does it not serve as God’s definition of marriage?
No. And trying to say that it does is adding to what the Gospel says. Nowhere is the Bible is there a definition of marriage that is clear and unambiguous. Just like this passage, every single verse you find is twisting the meaning of the words to claim it defines marriage.
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