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Old 09-28-2018, 07:37 AM
 
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^Too soon here for both of you, but good posts, gentlemen.

TD, nice comparison to interracial relationships. My sister (white) has been with her black husband for 42 years. Four decades ago they couldn't walk through a mall or go out to dinner without rude remarks and stares. Now no one gives them a second glance.

Hopefully similar change comes sooner rather than later for LGBT people, as well.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But why can't the LGBTQ community accept the fact that Christians think homosexuality is wrong?
There are many who claim to be Christians and say anything goes, and that it is wrong to talk about sin. They will accuse you of being a bigot unless you agree with them. You can narrow it down to saying "why can't they accept the fact that Bible teaches homosexual activity is sinful". If people want to disagree, then fine, their disagreement is with Biblical teachings.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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There are many who claim to be Christians and say anything goes, and that wrong to talk about sin. They will accuse you of being a bigot unless you agree with them. You can narrow it down to saying "why can't they accept the fact that Bible teaches homosexual activity is sinful". If people want to disagree, then fine, their disagreement is with Biblical teachings.

And there are many who claim to be Christian who bash gays, using the bible as their bludgeon. It's wrong. They are wrong. You who do not condemn it, are wrong.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 07:49 AM
 
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It is simple. When the biblical teaching conflicts with showing compassion for and acceptance of our fellow humans, the biblical teaching is wrong.
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Old 09-28-2018, 08:11 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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There are many who claim to be Christians and say anything goes, and that it is wrong to talk about sin. They will accuse you of being a bigot unless you agree with them. You can narrow it down to saying "why can't they accept the fact that Bible teaches homosexual activity is sinful". If people want to disagree, then fine, their disagreement is with Biblical teachings.
What homosexual activity is sinful? Is it falling in love? Is it holding hands with your SO? Is it kissing someone you love? Is it hugging your partner? I haven't seen any Biblical passages that refer to any of these things.
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Old 09-28-2018, 08:15 AM
 
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It is simple. When the biblical teaching conflicts with showing compassion for and acceptance of our fellow humans, the biblical teaching is wrong.
You can show compassion and acceptance without trash-canning Biblical teachings.

Parents, for example, are often in a situation where they tell their children "what you did was wrong, and you must face the consequences, but I want you to know I love you anyway".
 
Old 09-28-2018, 08:17 AM
 
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What homosexual activity is sinful? Is it falling in love? Is it holding hands with your SO? Is it kissing someone you love? Is it hugging your partner? I haven't seen any Biblical passages that refer to any of these things.
Google "homosexual activity". Google is easy.....and fun

Yes, you have seen the Bible describe what is considered sinful.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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This is really interesting, I thought I would share it here.
The Historic Origins of Church Condemnation of Homosexuality
Small excerpt:


On May 14, 390, an imperial decree was posted at the Roman hall of Minerva, a gathering place for actors, writers and artists, which criminalized for the first time the sexual practice of those whom we call "homosexual" men -- this had never happened before in the history of law. The prescribed penalty was death by burning.

This law was promulgated by an emperor who at the time was under a penance set by St. Ambrose, the bishop of Milan, and the law was issued in the context of a persecution of heresies.
Homosexual men at the imperial court had been powerful opponents of Catholic doctrine during the fourth-century conflicts over the nature of Jesus Christ...



Prior to 390, both religious and secular laws had targeted only one particular form of homosexuality:

when a man or youth who otherwise exhibited a virile attraction toward women nonetheless
agreed to or was forced to play a female role in intercourse with other men...
 
Old 09-28-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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What homosexual activity is sinful? Is it falling in love? Is it holding hands with your SO? Is it kissing someone you love? Is it hugging your partner? I haven't seen any Biblical passages that refer to any of these things.
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Google "homosexual activity". Google is easy.....and fun

Yes, you have seen the Bible describe what is considered sinful.
You'll have to tell me which homosexual activity you consider sinful. After you've told me, I'll see if I can ask a few LGBT folks if they engage in that activity.
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Old 09-28-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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It is simple. When the biblical teaching conflicts with showing compassion for and acceptance of our fellow humans, the biblical teaching is wrong.
Give an example, please.
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