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Old 09-28-2018, 01:00 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Well, in spite of the lack of specific references, Finn has come up with the only answer that covers his perception: ANY sexual acts between partners of the same sex. I'd have to say that is probably representative of conservative/fundamentalist perceptions. The question then becomes one of why such should be considered "sin" and of course the answer would be because of an arbitrary prohibition deduced by extension.

I don't believe God makes arbitrary rules for His creation. Do you?
Isn't that adding to what the Scripture says?
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Old 09-28-2018, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Google "homosexual activity". Google is easy.....and fun

Yes, you have seen the Bible describe what is considered sinful.
Sometimes when I am watching porn I get surprised what I want to look at.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Sometimes when I am watching porn I get surprised what I want to look at.
Thank you, Hanni, for always providing comic relief.
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Thank you, Hanni, for always providing comic relief.
LOL, I wasn't really trying to be funny, the thing that I am always wondering is if I have some kind of flaw that other men do not have. I look down on myself for looking at porn and It isn't like I do it even once a month, but I do do it, and I wonder how other men do not do it.....Is it that I am flawed because of maybe child abuse, and are there really men out there with computers who NEVER even look at a woman topless? I say flawed because I can't help myself, maybe I am just not strong willed enough.


One thing is certain, anyone who looks at porn can't open their eyes at anyone else in my opinion, and I wonder at the Christians who speak of Homosexuality, wondering if they are unlike me? It has always been that I think a lot of people just flat out lie about theyselves, but then that might be me trying to rationalize that no man is better than me. Are there really Christian men in here that never look at porn?
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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I still haven't seen anybody post a Bible verse that condemns Bob and Jim for falling in love and living in a committed relationship.
What type of relationship? Are we talking buddies? Like Oscar and Felix of the Odd Couple? Or homosexual relationship?

Romans 1 condemns homosexuality. But I really don't pretend you care. Nor is that a reason to mistreat or to discriminate against anyone in America, so please don't suggest that's our intent.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Coming from a family of ministers and being in a ministry most of my life, I have been in and out of many houses of preachers and others who would preach an entire sermon against immoral sex, and then you just happen to run across their porn, it is always surprising.....The one time I talked my daughter into going to church, the preacher molested her with his eyes and then tried to scoot up next to her to ask her if she worked out, she was 12, and it soured her against religion from that day because of that one sleazy preacher.............You get out of church and go to the grocers and here are the elders and the preacher eyeing some teenage girl that should dress better, and they pay and leave thinking that nothing had taken place, meanwhile, I just happen to be the father of that girl, and I am already making plans lol.....I don't know if anyone could understand but a father, but when a father sees some old Christian man lusting after his daughter, well, it set my teeth on edge and I start drooling, and yet, these men act as if nothing had taken place.


Has it?


I know I am angry, so has something happened there? I mean, that is my point, I think people just don't want to admit what they do. But to see Christian men like that, to then watch them preach a sermon against Homosexuals is just sickening.....


Wonder what each Christian man would say if I asked all of them about porn and whether they watch it or not?


Wonder how many Christian men would actually lie to say they don't ever watch porn?


99 percent?
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Are there really Christian men in here that never look at porn?
I am sure there are many who do not look at porn.

Then there are those who look, and might even be addicted to it, and admit it makes them feel bad / guilty, but they can't help it.

Then there are those who look, and have no qualms about it.

Those who claim to be Christian and are in the last group, might want to consider 2 Corinthians 13:5.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What type of relationship? Are we talking buddies? Like Oscar and Felix of the Odd Couple? Or homosexual relationship?
Hard to say. He moved the goal posts, and now he is asking about a Bible verse no one claimed even exists.

There are four kinds of love:

1. Storge = Love between family members
2. Philia = Friendship. Love between friends. Non-sexual
3. Agape = God's selfless love
4. Eros = Love with a sexual element in it, as it man-wife relationship
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: New England
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Hard to say. He moved the goal posts, and now he is asking about a Bible verse no one claimed even exists.

There are four kinds of love:

1. Storge = Love between family members
2. Philia = Friendship. Love between friends. Non-sexual
3. Agape = God's selfless love
4. Eros = Love with a sexual element in it, as it man-wife relationship
Wow, your well up on the whole love thing. Dr Love, what is your opinion of one gay guy loving another gay guy with choice #3 ?.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Those who claim to be Christian and are in the last group, might want to consider 2 Corinthians 13:5.
I suppose that is one of the most well known scriptures, and what is said is ok with me.....But I don't accept 2 Corinthians as an authority on anything, I may agree with some things written there, but for the most part, you could rip 2 Corinthians right out of the book, it holds no weight for me.
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