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Besides the one I demonstrated by pointing you in the direction of the Good Sam story?
There are a lot of them, obviously. But in keeping with the topic of the thread, OK, let's do the Leviticus ones:
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
Let's keep this to consensual sex, OK, and leave out the tangents about pedophiles and rapists and whatnot. That's a whole different subject and not related to the intent of this thread.
The first one doesn't come with a directive for punishment, but it still calls homosexual activity an abomination. That's a pretty crappy and hurtful thing to say to a person who is simply enjoying their natural physical desires with a partner, especially one for whom they have love and affection. Heterosexual people who engage in sexual activity aren't told that their activity is "an abomination". Therefore, the compassionate thing to do would be to stop saying that, whether to their face, posted on signs, or about people you know even if you don't say it to their face.
The second verse is obviously horrific and obviously easily trumped by compassion. PUT THEM TO DEATH????? Yeah--biblical--but PUT THEM TO DEATH????????????????
Now, I'm pretty sure that you personally aren't in the business of putting gay people to death. We've talked in either this or another thread about how and why an ancient culture such as the one that developed these laws would have not accepted sexual activity that did not promote procreation and the strengthening of numbers of the tribe. They were not having any of this man-lying-with-man business, no sir, and they needed to show they meant it.
There are actually people out there who believe God said these words, not the people who wrote them. Crazy, huh? This is a very good example, as a matter of fact, of the danger of believing that the Bible is in the inerrant Word of God.
I'm sure there are people in this country who would be OK with putting gay people to death, but we have laws against murder, just like the Bible does, because it IS compassionate, at the very least, not to kill people we find repulsive for any reason.
Overall, the compassionate thing to do would be to disregard these verses as the utterings of an ancient culture, and just let people be who they are. Then perhaps we can all move forward to working on things that really matter, like distributing food and ending war.
Lev. 18:22 can be true (from God’s perspective) and we still ought to treat others nicely. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Lev. 18:22 can be true (from God’s perspective) and we still ought to treat others nicely. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
While I don't agree with the first part of your sentence, obviously, since I don't believe God had anything to do with Leviticus or cares about sexual orientation or our sexual habits, the second part of your first sentence is what really matters.
Let me get clear here...we can actually google which gay activity Finn considers sinful? His considerations are on google?
But, apparently, we all already know?
Finn, sorry, my dear, I have little patience being an English Minor for a lack of reading comp.
I have passed so many multiple State exams and Boards for one reason ...I was able to read the question!
While I don't agree with the first part of your sentence, obviously, since I don't believe God had anything to do with Leviticus or cares about sexual orientation or our sexual habits, the second part of your first sentence is what really matters.
LOL, I wasn't really trying to be funny, the thing that I am always wondering is if I have some kind of flaw that other men do not have. I look down on myself for looking at porn and It isn't like I do it even once a month, but I do do it, and I wonder how other men do not do it.....Is it that I am flawed because of maybe child abuse, and are there really men out there with computers who NEVER even look at a woman topless? I say flawed because I can't help myself, maybe I am just not strong willed enough.
One thing is certain, anyone who looks at porn can't open their eyes at anyone else in my opinion, and I wonder at the Christians who speak of Homosexuality, wondering if they are unlike me? It has always been that I think a lot of people just flat out lie about theyselves, but then that might be me trying to rationalize that no man is better than me. Are there really Christian men in here that never look at porn?
We're all flawed. We all have 'stuff'. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you. *HUGS*
There seems to be a lot of focus on what we do, what LGBT couples do. What we do is no different from what our straight counterparts do. We talk and laugh. We complain about work and we wonder about growing old. We talk about our families, and we worry about the future. And we cry with each other when things seem hopeless. All of the loving things straight couples do with each other, that is what we do. For that we are labelled abominations. And perverts. And promiscuous. LGBT Christians are neither more nor less sexually promiscuous than straight Christians.
We're cut off from our families, run out of churches, and denied opportunities to serve Christ as straight Christians do. Some of us are denied employment, and housing, and adequate medical care. What we want, is no different than what straight Christians want.
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