Not many talk about this verse John 8:15 (translation, Baptist, grace)
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Sounds like you're judging the "fear-based Bible thumpers".
You should be less judgmental.
It does sound that way without knowing me.
As you may have missed i said I was sorry for saying 'thumpers'.. it does have a bad tone to it...Bible quoters is better.
I do not like my loving Father misrepresented.That is a FACT! Centuries of it is enough for me.
Fear based Bible quoters are just that...it is a description, no?
Love-based Bible quoters are just that, right?
I have understanding in my heart that even a thief is where he is at 'now', acting out
some nutty issue and it is perfect for him...
change and growth and wisdom always come...in time.
I couldn't judge him...I don't know his journey...which is perfectly planned just for him to learn
and come closer to Home.
He is an extension of God, besides...the addict, the prostitute and the saint!
We are all beloved children of God and we are at all stages of realizations.
Do I like that nice people are turned away from God because of the stories of a flaming hell
waiting for them?
No.
Do I want stories of our loving Father told more, yes.
It does sound that way without knowing me.
I do not like my loving Father misrepresented.That is a FACT! Centuries of it is enough for me.
Fear based Bible quoters are just that...it is a description, no?
Love-based Bible quoters are just that, right?
I have understanding in my heart that even a thief is where he is at 'now', acting out
some nutty issue and it is perfect for him...
change and growth and wisdom always come...in time.
I couldn't judge him...I don't know his journey...which is perfectly planned just for him to learn
and come closer to Home.
He is an extension of God, besides...the addict, the prostitute and the saint!
We are all beloved children of God and we are at all stages of realizations.
Do I like that nice people are turned away from God because of the stories of a flaming hell
waiting for them?
No.
Do I want stories of our loving Father told more, yes.
So you are saying that your point of view is better, and those that disagree with you are wrong. That is kind of judgmental. I get it--you may have pure motives...but if judging is wrong, period...then it's wrong.
God never said we can't judge..but we must not judge hypocritically. Do you realize that? Maybe that's your point. But I'm not sure you really made your case in your OP.
It does sound that way without knowing me.
As you may have missed i said I was sorry for saying 'thumpers'.. it does have a bad tone to it...Bible quoters is better.
I do not like my loving Father misrepresented.That is a FACT! Centuries of it is enough for me.
Fear based Bible quoters are just that...it is a description, no?
Love-based Bible quoters are just that, right?
I have understanding in my heart that even a thief is where he is at 'now', acting out
some nutty issue and it is perfect for him...
change and growth and wisdom always come...in time.
I couldn't judge him...I don't know his journey...which is perfectly planned just for him to learn
and come closer to Home.
He is an extension of God, besides...the addict, the prostitute and the saint!
We are all beloved children of God and we are at all stages of realizations.
Do I like that nice people are turned away from God because of the stories of a flaming hell
waiting for them?
No.
Do I want stories of our loving Father told more, yes.
Ah, Fear based bible quoters. vs Love based quoters.
Interesting bridge of thought.
Reminded me to take captive certain thoughts. Similar to paul whom is a man that knew the scriptures well enough to confuse the enemies. Something about confidence is related to courage.
Blessings and curses. Life and death.
Discernment.
For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned."
2 Corinthians 10:5New International Version (NIV)
5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
…20With the fruit of a man's mouth his stomach will be satisfied; He will be satisfied with the product of his lips. 21Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those who love it will eat its fruit. 22He who finds a wife finds a good thing And obtains favor from the LORD.…
Judgment is a whole other topic...maybe we should start a thread on it.
What did Jesus mean ...Don't judge.
Can we not call a fat person fat?
Can we not call a mean person mean?
Or did he mean in our hearts not to put ourselves higher then the fat person
and he lesser than...when we each have our stuff to process in all sorts of ways...
each needs something different.
It's like do you judge and put down the last runner in a race? Well, you can.
Or you can just see he was was the last..no ill-intentioned 'judgment'.
Do I not like fear-based Bible quoters? I do not.
As I said, I do not like my loving Father misrepresented.
i can like or dislike something...preferences are permitted.
Is it 'judging' a smelly trash can to move to the other side of street when walking?
Is that what Jesus meant by not judging?
There is a judgement call and then ill-intentioned holy-than-thou judgment.
I repeat...I do not like my Father portrayed as a wrathful murderer flinging souls into hell.
So for all those so eager to jump on the wagon of how Miss Hepburn is a judgmental person...there.
A discussion on judgment should be an interesting topic.
So you are saying that your point of view is better, and those that disagree with you are wrong. That is kind of judgmental. I get it--you may have pure motives...but if judging is wrong, period...then it's wrong.
God never said we can't judge..but we must not judge hypocritically. Do you realize that? Maybe that's your point. But I'm not sure you really made your case in your OP.
If i say the sky is blue and you say it is lavender...
if I don't like when you call it lavender when it is clearly blue..
Is that judgmental?
Is my point of view that God is loving better? Yes.
Are others wrong if they portray him as not loving...yes.
Will I be changing that 'point of view' as you call it? No.
I was not making a case about judgment in the op...I am now.
Not at all. She is judging fear-based Bible thumpING; an excellent thing to do.
You're funny...no, judging Bible thumpers is not good.
I don't happen to like fear-based people pounding on their Bibles trying to
get it thru people's heads they are going to hell if they
- do not do such and such ,
-believe such and such...
-and their way is the only way...
- or that God is some mean Being!
I don't like it...so sue me. I also do not like sauerkraut...am i judging sauerkraut...
I just don't LIKE IT, guys....
It does sound that way without knowing me.
As you may have missed i said I was sorry for saying 'thumpers'.. it does have a bad tone to it...Bible quoters is better.
I do not like my loving Father misrepresented.That is a FACT! Centuries of it is enough for me.
Fear based Bible quoters are just that...it is a description, no?
Love-based Bible quoters are just that, right?
I have understanding in my heart that even a thief is where he is at 'now', acting out
some nutty issue and it is perfect for him...
change and growth and wisdom always come...in time.
I couldn't judge him...I don't know his journey...which is perfectly planned just for him to learn
and come closer to Home.
He is an extension of God, besides...the addict, the prostitute and the saint!
We are all beloved children of God and we are at all stages of realizations.
Do I like that nice people are turned away from God because of the stories of a flaming hell
waiting for them?
No.
Do I want stories of our loving Father told more, yes.
Blessings always
Praises for every meal.
Bless the LORD, O my soul, And all that is within me, bless His holy name. Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget none of His benefits; Who pardons all your iniquities,
the soul was severed from the flesh.
Oh give thanks to the LORD, call upon His name; Make known His deeds among the peoples.
water blood water spirit.
always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;
Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name.
It does sound that way without knowing me.
As you may have missed i said I was sorry for saying 'thumpers'.. it does have a bad tone to it...Bible quoters is better.
I do not like my loving Father misrepresented.That is a FACT! Centuries of it is enough for me.
Fear based Bible quoters are just that...it is a description, no?
Love-based Bible quoters are just that, right?
I have understanding in my heart that even a thief is where he is at 'now', acting out
some nutty issue and it is perfect for him...
change and growth and wisdom always come...in time.
I couldn't judge him...I don't know his journey...which is perfectly planned just for him to learn
and come closer to Home.
He is an extension of God, besides...the addict, the prostitute and the saint!
We are all beloved children of God and we are at all stages of realizations.
Do I like that nice people are turned away from God because of the stories of a flaming hell
waiting for them?
No.
Do I want stories of our loving Father told more, yes.
Praises for every meal.
Bless the LORD, O my soul, And all that is within me, bless His holy name. Bless the LORD, O my soul, And forget none of His benefits; Who pardons all your iniquities,
Oh give thanks to the LORD, call upon His name; Make known His deeds among the peoples.
water blood water spirit.
always giving thanks for all things in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ to God, even the Father;
Through Him then, let us continually offer up a sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of lips that give thanks to His name.
If i say the sky is blue and you say it is lavender...
if I don't like when you call it lavender when it is clearly blue..
Is that judgmental?
Is my point of view that God is loving better? Yes.
Are others wrong if they portray him as not loving...yes.
Will I be changing that 'point of view' as you call it? No.
I was not making a case about judgment in the op...I am now.
Perhaps I'm just missing the point of your original post. You seemed to be suggesting that judgment is bad. And that "bible thumpers" do it, and that Jesus said not to. Did I miss that point? Was it a different point?
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