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Old 10-25-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: New England
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I mean, is there something others just do not understand, but you think you do?

Or do most miss something you 'get'?

Do you think something is misinterpreted?

I know this could go south fast...I hope it doesn't...I believe people have different or even great insights into
some things others have overlooked or not considered.

What profound understandings have some missed, in your opinion?
Sometimes where a coma is placed changes the meaning of an entire quote, for example.
Inspired by some 'new takes' on another thread.
Thanks.
We all read the scriptures BY the concept we have of God. So i really don't think the question should be "what is it you are seeing what others don't see", but is the concept you view the scriptures by, liberating you or being a yoke to bondage again, that for me is the litmus test. Reading it from the concept that God needs to punish man with eternal torment for not believing in him caused me to be in more bondage than when i was a so called sinner.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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The writers. The poet who wrote Genesis 1. The songwriters who created the Psalms. The documenters who wrote Numbers, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy. The historians who wrote down tales previously told around fires under a starry desert sky. The people who felt as though they'd gotten a glimpse of God and wanted to tell others what they saw and were limited by words to describe their experience but tried anyway.

Those who prophesied through words to tell their people when they were going down the wrong path. The gospel writers who tried to transmit what this guy Jesus was telling them that was so different from what they'd heard before and did their best to set down what they had been told by others who knew them. The Revelator who used brilliant symbolism and great imagination that inspired art and literature for the next 2000 years.

They all felt the need to tell their story, to write it down. Most unknown, merely shadows to us, but their words survive and for better or worse, are read, over and over again. That is accomplishment for a writer. To be read, that is everything.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Here on this message board, Substitutionary Atonement. It’s the theme of the whole of scripture.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:53 PM
 
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I mean, is there something others just do not understand, but you think you do?

Or do most miss something you 'get'?

Do you think something is misinterpreted?

I know this could go south fast...I hope it doesn't...I believe people have different or even great insights into
some things others have overlooked or not considered.

What profound understandings have some missed, in your opinion?
Sometimes where a coma is placed changes the meaning of an entire quote, for example.
Inspired by some 'new takes' on another thread.
Thanks.
I don't know.
But I've often wondered if Others have heard a single voice.
If that when they read Yeshua speaking they here the same voice flowing over the whole of scripture like a voice over the water with the good soil being purified by His very voice.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:08 PM
 
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Here on this message board, Substitutionary Atonement. It’s the theme of the whole of scripture.
The theme is Substitutionary Achievement. Jesus achieved what we could NOT. We do not read with love of the scriptures. We read the scriptures with the love of God and each other.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What do you see in the Bible you think others don't see?

That depends on who it is you mean by others?
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Hahahaha, anyone other than yourself, my dear.
That each person is responsible for their own thoughts, deeds and actions; good or bad.
And that there is no transferring the blame to someone else.
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Old 10-25-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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That each person is responsible for their own thoughts, deeds and actions; good or bad.
And that there is no transferring the blame to someone else.
I thought repentance is a choice that the Lord covers even while a person struggling to accept grace.
Unwarranted favor is what comes to my mind at the moment.
Even ole shaul spoke of the thorn in his side in way that I've taken to be a reminder of humility first. Something in itself that has kept me from leaping when the enemy has spoken of savaltion like it were something of value that could ever possibly be returned in equal to my savior.

As if.
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Old 10-25-2018, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That each person is responsible for their own thoughts, deeds and actions; good or bad.
And that there is no transferring the blame to someone else.
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I thought repentance is a choice that the Lord covers even while a person struggling to accept grace.
Unwarranted favor is what comes to my mind at the moment.
Even ole shaul spoke of the thorn in his side in way that I've taken to be a reminder of humility first. Something in itself that has kept me from leaping when the enemy has spoken of savaltion like it were something of value that could ever possibly be returned in equal to my savior.

As if.
For what mercy you have shown that shall you also receive.
It is not about blaming, it's about compassionately forgiving.

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Old 10-25-2018, 11:16 PM
 
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For what mercy you have shown that shall you also receive.
It is not about blaming, it's about compassionately forgiving.
Yes.
And ive had a difficult time here. With one foot in the world and another in the spirit.

I ask with honesty sir.
Why do a certain number of angels have a certain number of wings that equal the number of tribes given a promise.
I saw two angels in the first promise with honor.
There the pair were in the Shekinah Glory with the mercy seat.
To the left and right they bowed with six wings each. 4 over their faces, 4 covering their?
And 4 washng their feet.
And mystic spoke of such a mystery with his heart today.
I saw 12 wings like pearls of a covenant.
Did you hear it also.
Only a single grain of sand well named escaped my attention while such a wonder was revealed.

Did you see it?
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:27 AM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Funny, I would find this on another forum in Poetry,
posted there by mistake, when I had this thread! Ha!

Ten interpretations of John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Interpretation of the agnostic:

Original thought is energy created by that One thinker
Manifests through all that is, as the Word of the Creator
It is a concept which we cannot yet fully understand
Perhaps we are in a subset of the Set beyond which God stands

Interpretation of the evangelist:

When none was, HE was
Of all that is and was, HE is the cause
HE passed on his Word to Jesus, his son
HE, the one true GOD and Jesus became one

Interpretation of the theosophist:

The matter manifest and the energy concealed were once unified
The magical breath, the wave, the impulse, made them become untied
So what appears to be duality
Is in reality a singularity
The source sent this wave forth, pervading time and space
HE, the source, the creator, is in all and yet apart, in an unfathomable place

Interpretation of the atheist:

The Bible talks of a beginning while the Gita says that there is no beginning and no end
All doctrines appear to be works of fiction to make our will bend
Why does John 1.1 say 'word' instead of using a more lucid expression?
Unless the word 'word' symbolizes something nearest to it in description
If that be so, the spoken Word is a sound to the human ear and a wave in scientific terminology
So if in the beginning was a wave and the creator of the wave was God, we are in the realm of theology
More baffling being the concept that the wave maker and the wave are one
It's like a jigsaw puzzle with parts incomplete, with which I am done!

Interpretation of the analyst:

Word is preceded by thought and thought by a thinker, looking inwards
The word is then of the thinker propelling his thought as action, outwards
If the word becomes the thinker then the world is nothing but thought
An inexplicable creation into which we have been brought!

Interpretation of the scientist:

The beginning of time means the Big Bang!
Eons after which life formed and birds sang
The Word may then be likened to an outpouring of infinite energy
Bringing to form all we know in an expanding synergy

Interpretation of an artist:

The Word is the divine breath creating a multitude of living bubbles
The breath is and was with God, who for us has undertaken all these troubles
Bringing life and light into the void, the empty space
God is indistinguishable from the Word showering upon all his benign grace!

Interpretation of a theorist:

Prior to the beginning, there was only space like a giant empty womb
The beginning saw God infuse energy and life into what otherwise was an empty tomb
Just like the life growing within the womb knows nothing of what lies outside its boundary
Who God is will forever remain a mystery, our quandary
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