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Old 10-13-2008, 06:51 AM
 
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Christians who vote for Obama recognize a few things. Here are a few of them:

1. Unjust war- I, as many others, believe that this war is immoral and unjust. This war is responsible for many deaths, not only our soldiers, but many women in children who were innocent bystanders of this unjust war.
2. Abortion- While Obama is apparently for abortion in many cases, I believe that his plan will ultimately cause less abortion that McCain’s.
3. Christian character- McCain happens to be running the most dishonorable campaign in history. In addition, when you listen to "conservative" radio and those who support him (including the vice president candidate), the things that they insinuate are just mean, and unGodly. We recognize that sin doesn’t just stop at abortion, lying is a sin as well.
4. Care for the poor. Obama’s plan has greater care for the poor. A responsibility issued by the Bible.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Christians who vote for Obama recognize a few things. Here are a few of them:

1. Unjust war- I, as many others, believe that this war is immoral and unjust. This war is responsible for many deaths, not only our soldiers, but many women in children who were innocent bystanders of this unjust war.
2. Abortion- While Obama is apparently for abortion in many cases, I believe that his plan will ultimately cause less abortion that McCain’s.
3. Christian character- McCain happens to be running the most dishonorable campaign in history. In addition, when you listen to "conservative" radio and those who support him (including the vice president candidate), the things that they insinuate are just mean, and unGodly. We recognize that sin doesn’t just stop at abortion, lying is a sin as well.
4. Care for the poor. Obama’s plan has greater care for the poor. A responsibility issued by the Bible.
Good points, and these are all reasons that I won't vote Republican this election. However, there are a things I disagree w/Barack on, especially his socialist views, there is no way in this economy he can fulfill his tax break promises, and his economic policies will not help in this climate to get things churning again. Which leads me to really submit my vote for change as both canidates seem to keep harping, and that is for the Constitution Party.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Not one side.

BOTH SIDES supports the war.

Dishonest campaign? - that's telling the majority of the voters that he is a Christian to get votes. What else is new about Politicians?
Read it on wikipedia about his mother. He first said she was an atheist, then she went to church, then she was a 'Christian' all along. Even his grandparents knew she was an atheist/agnostic because she believed in everything. Obama has been going to church for 20yrs in a hatefilled/racist church. The least he could've learned was that there is only one way into heaven. Obama claims there are MANY ways into heaven after going to church for 20 years.



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Abortion is a huge deal for me too. But lying, character and unnecessary death due to an unjust war are also deal breakers. One side supports abortion, the other side supports an immoral war and a very very dishonest campaign.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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1. You need to research Obama, and see who supported the war since the inception.
2. Less abortion? Obama has refused major abortion bills/laws that would help newborn babies from failed abortion.
3. Obama hasn't lied? I can bring you countless videos of him lying about not knowing what Wright said in church...to later saying he did hear it, and now he condemns it. Why didnt he condemn it at the beginning? Because he didnt know that voters were against it. As soon as he learned that voters didnt like it...he lied about it first...then he later admitted to it...then later condemned it to gain your vote. I wonder what else he's lying about to gain YOUR VOTE.
4. Care for the poor? how about sending some money to his family who live on a dollar per day?

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Originally Posted by Consider View Post
Christians who vote for Obama recognize a few things. Here are a few of them:

1. Unjust war- I, as many others, believe that this war is immoral and unjust. This war is responsible for many deaths, not only our soldiers, but many women in children who were innocent bystanders of this unjust war.
2. Abortion- While Obama is apparently for abortion in many cases, I believe that his plan will ultimately cause less abortion that McCain’s.
3. Christian character- McCain happens to be running the most dishonorable campaign in history. In addition, when you listen to "conservative" radio and those who support him (including the vice president candidate), the things that they insinuate are just mean, and unGodly. We recognize that sin doesn’t just stop at abortion, lying is a sin as well.
4. Care for the poor. Obama’s plan has greater care for the poor. A responsibility issued by the Bible.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:40 AM
 
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It doesn't matter what "factcheck", or anybody else says....killing babies is killing babies is killing babies. Obama's voting record is public record...you can't sugar-coat it after the fact...there is no way you can justify the killing of live-born aborted babies....

FYI, I'm not a "classy" republican, or any other kind of Republican...I'm a registered Independent...


Bud
Well I supposed it doesn't matter what "factcheck" or anybody else says if you don't want the truth.

Obama's voting record is public record. However, indicating that Obama is involved with "infantcide" is not only objectionable but its simply wrong.
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Old 10-13-2008, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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Factcheck?

I hope you know they have been 'debunked'.

Didn't you know that Obama is buddies with the owner/director of Factcheck? They WORKED together for goodness sakes.

Even the story about Obama's birth certificate was FALSE.


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Well I supposed it doesn't matter what "factcheck" or anybody else says if you don't want the truth.

Obama's voting record is public record. However, indicating that Obama is involved with "infantcide" is not only objectionable but its simply wrong.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:05 AM
 
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Factcheck?

I hope you know they have been 'debunked'.
Didn't know that. I'd be interesting in reading about that. Please post a link.

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Factcheck?

Didn't you know that Obama is buddies with the owner/director of Factcheck? They WORKED together for goodness sakes.
Didn't know that. I'd be interesting in reading about that. Please post a link.

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Even the story about Obama's birth certificate was FALSE.
Didn't know that. I'd be interesting in reading about that. Please post a link.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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go read on the political forum.

There are many links to post.

Just look for the owners name on the site...and google it with obama's name next to it.

Obama Crimes for the birth certificate. It talks about the copy that factcheck has. Is it all true? I guess we'll find out soon enough

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Didn't know that. I'd be interesting in reading about that. Please post a link.



Didn't know that. I'd be interesting in reading about that. Please post a link.



Didn't know that. I'd be interesting in reading about that. Please post a link.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:02 AM
 
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Factcheck?

I hope you know they have been 'debunked'.
then...

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go read on the political forum.

There are many links to post.
Then please provide the links. I'm guessing they haven't been "debunked" and will continue with that thought until proven otherwise. You made the claim so please at least back it up with something.

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Just look for the owners name on the site...and google it with obama's name next to it.
Ok. Sounds fun. I've always said I liked scavenger hunts even when they yield zero results:

Here is the whois result for www.factcheck.org

http://www.networksolutions.com/whoi...=factcheck.org

Looks like the director is Brooks Jackson.

I then entered "Brooks Jackson" and Obama in Google and found this:






















(hint~~~ nothing)

I must now assume that since your original assertion you actually have nothing and that any information you provide probably comes from a website like:

www.obamaisanaziandhatesbabiesandisanarabanddoesnt likeoldpeople.com
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:40 AM
 
Location: among the chaos
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Ahh, come on, BigT. I tried going to this site and there just ain't no such thing. You ought'n get yer facts straight.

(at least not that my silly computer could find)

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