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The funny thing about the bible... Not once.. not in leviticus.. not in Paul's letters.. not once does the bible EVER condemn a loving homosexual relationship.
Homosexuality is not a sin. If you all would take the time to learn how complex the soul is, you would know that. The bible does not teach you how the soul is made, how it incarnates in the body or anything else. The soul, your half, is made with two parts. That soul splits in half BEFORE it incarnates into the material body. The soul, your half, does not care if it goes into male or female. It only looks for a body that can support it. And that is usually BEFORE the sexual organs are formed. A male half CAN incarnate into a female body and vise verse. The gay/lesbian tendencies are there when you are born. There is nothing you can do about it and if God wanted the males and females to only go into those genders, He would have not made it possible for the soul to go into the opposite sex.
Homosexuality, therefore, is a behavior, which develops in certain part of the population by a process of sexual fixation that one may observe in all social classes, in all societies, even in the animal kingdom. It is an inclination that doesn't constitute the norm, because only a minority is affected, but it is not unnatural and can be practiced in harmony with God's laws, in the same way as heterosexuality.
Sexuality is merely a material function, and it doesn't have anything to do with spirituality. In the spirit world, the spirit bodies don't even have sexual organs. All kinds of love, of which we speak, for example natural love in the spirit world, or soul mate love, have nothing to do with sexuality.
Sexuality is a purely material phenomenon, which disappears a short time after entering the new world of spirits. The love between soul mates is a highly purified love, a spiritual love, only overpowered in its quality by the Father's Love. It is the highest form of natural love.
Unbelievable! I have no idea what type of reverend you are but seriously? You really believe this? This is not biblical whatsoever. Even if the Bible does not teach about the soul, this so off track.
And really, why do people feel the need to bring the animal kingdom into gay threads? Animals do not have souls and were not created for the same purpose as man. What the animals do has absolutely no bearing on what God has said to men and women.
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1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
And why do people get so bent on how many times something is said in the Bible? Whether it's one, two or more, it's there. How many times did your mom have to tell you to stop doing something? Do you think it changed the more it was said?
Unbelievable! I have no idea what type of reverend you are but seriously? You really believe this? This is not biblical whatsoever. Even if the Bible does not teach about the soul, this so off track.
And really, why do people feel the need to bring the animal kingdom into gay threads? Animals do not have souls and were not created for the same purpose as man. What the animals do has absolutely no bearing on what God has said to men and women.
And why do people get so bent on how many times something is said in the Bible? Whether it's one, two or more, it's there. How many times did your mom have to tell you to stop doing something? Do you think it changed the more it was said?
In order to understand the gay marriage institution, you need to understand the soul and how God created it. You can't just say it's wrong without knowing anything about the creation part.
And, that is based off of my scriptures so please don't make fun of it as I don't make fun of yours.
The OT was written by barbaric men who needed some kind of structure. They only said that they didn't want gay marriage because their only interest was procreation so that they could do battle. You can't have gay marriages and expect to have offspring, now can you?
Gay marriages, when done in the right context, can be as beautiful as a heterosexual marriage.
As to the animal part, we became as animals when our first parents sinned so yes, we can be compared to animals. We still live barbarically as you can see that everyday when you know there is still killing, raping, beatings, etc. going on. If you don't want to be compared to the animal kingdom, teach others not to do those things.
Personally, I think that Reverend1111 put the bible on CD and played it backwards, thinking that the Devil must be talking through it and that everything under the sun is 'A-OK'.
Sorry, but, this means your giving rapists, pedophiles and other deviants the 'right' to do what they please, and its not considered a 'sin' because of the developing souls being in two pieces or something to that effect?
It sounded like a lot of rubbish to me...Though, if you were to talk to someone who didnt 'know' the bible from the Dictionary, then you could confuse anyone with this twisted logic.
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know right from wrong, if they read the bible...JESUS says that even a child can understand it, (maybe because we grownups try to read too much into the Bible, that we lose everything in the translation because we over translate it??).
When it says homosexuallity is an abomination...Thats all I need to know.
And as JESUS says, love the sinner, but hate the sin, (yea, I keep paraphrasing because I dont have that book that shows every word so that I can find what I am looking for in the Bible...Dummy me, I cant remember verses to save my life!), well, I go with that.
If something is sinful, then you have to address the sin, but, if they wont stop sinning, then you have to keep trying for thier sake and soul... Who wants anyone to burn in hell? I certainly dont, but, everyone has free will and you cant control that, so, the sinner will do what they think is right, even if they 'know' that its wrong with the bible and GOD, they will do what 'they' want to do, and you simply cant stop them.
I know, I am way off track with the original thread..but, the "good Reverend1111" kinda got the hairs on the back of my neck going when he tries to justify everything in his 'new wave' theories of misjustifications.
This is my last post on this thread, and again, my apologies for even posting or reading this...
Reverend, what church/belief system do you follow? Are you using the same Bible that we're thinking of?
I'm a Divine Love Christian. My teachings come from Celestial Spirits like Jesus, the Apostles, Mary, mother of Jesus and many more. I also learn from other sources like Midwayers and Magisterial Sons.
I don't believe the bible is 100% correct although I do believe it has some good inspirations in it. I do not learn from it though.
It doesn't matter what you think of my teachings or what names you may call me. I follow the path that God and Jesus laid out for me. I study the afterlife and what happens. I don't worship anyone other than God.
Personally, I think that Reverend1111 put the bible on CD and played it backwards, thinking that the Devil must be talking through it and that everything under the sun is 'A-OK'.
Sorry, but, this means your giving rapists, pedophiles and other deviants the 'right' to do what they please, and its not considered a 'sin' because of the developing souls being in two pieces or something to that effect?
It sounded like a lot of rubbish to me...Though, if you were to talk to someone who didnt 'know' the bible from the Dictionary, then you could confuse anyone with this twisted logic.
It doesnt take a rocket scientist to know right from wrong, if they read the bible...JESUS says that even a child can understand it, (maybe because we grownups try to read too much into the Bible, that we lose everything in the translation because we over translate it??).
When it says homosexuallity is an abomination...Thats all I need to know.
And as JESUS says, love the sinner, but hate the sin, (yea, I keep paraphrasing because I dont have that book that shows every word so that I can find what I am looking for in the Bible...Dummy me, I cant remember verses to save my life!), well, I go with that.
If something is sinful, then you have to address the sin, but, if they wont stop sinning, then you have to keep trying for thier sake and soul... Who wants anyone to burn in hell? I certainly dont, but, everyone has free will and you cant control that, so, the sinner will do what they think is right, even if they 'know' that its wrong with the bible and GOD, they will do what 'they' want to do, and you simply cant stop them.
I know, I am way off track with the original thread..but, the "good Reverend1111" kinda got the hairs on the back of my neck going when he tries to justify everything in his 'new wave' theories of misjustifications.
This is my last post on this thread, and again, my apologies for even posting or reading this...
May the LORD Bless each of you.
I wish you well...
Jesse
Seems to me that a lot of bible readers in this forum state things like this and then run away. See it a lot. I'm no coward nor am I listening to any devil as he doesn't exist. If you want to mock me, stick around and listen to what I may have to say instead of running away.
In order to understand the gay marriage institution, you need to understand the soul and how God created it. You can't just say it's wrong without knowing anything about the creation part.
And, that is based off of my scriptures so please don't make fun of it as I don't make fun of yours.
The OT was written by barbaric men who needed some kind of structure. They only said that they didn't want gay marriage because their only interest was procreation so that they could do battle. You can't have gay marriages and expect to have offspring, now can you?
Gay marriages, when done in the right context, can be as beautiful as a heterosexual marriage.
As to the animal part, we became as animals when our first parents sinned so yes, we can be compared to animals. We still live barbarically as you can see that everyday when you know there is still killing, raping, beatings, etc. going on. If you don't want to be compared to the animal kingdom, teach others not to do those things.
Why do you say the men were barbaric? Because they didn't have the modern-day conveniences we have? Because we are more evolved than they were? Have you researched the OT and looked into history to see how advanced these people were?
I am not making any of my comments on mere assumptions. I have delved through the scriptures for years to come to where I'm at today.
And really? Gay marriage when done in the right context can be beautiful? Dude, it's still a sin, whether it's done in the "right" context or not, it's against God's plan and will for men. What do you make of 1 Corinthians 6:9?
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2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
This verse is exactly for people who believe in gay marriage. If you believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God and that Jesus is God then you should believe the above verses.
Seems to me that a lot of bible readers in this forum state things like this and then run away. See it a lot. I'm no coward nor am I listening to any devil as he doesn't exist. If you want to mock me, stick around and listen to what I may have to say instead of running away.
Well, according to the Bible we use, the devil is a very real entity. Also, our teachings come from God Himself and no other. Of course, I guess you already know that.
If one cares to research this particular sect, just google "Revelations of Divine Love" and you will find that it's Creator(s): Julian, of Norwich, b. 1343 and a list of sixteen revelations with it's accompanying information.
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