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Old 09-19-2009, 07:50 AM
 
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so many people are so quick to go on and on in stating that: "They would never forgive that person"

They only condemn themselves with such an attitude.

For a true Christian should always forgive.
Knowing that if we cant forgive others who sin against us, by what right do we expect our Lord to forgive us when we sin against Him?

The standard we use to forgive others by, is the same standard use to forgive us by.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:00 AM
 
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so many people are so quick to go on and on in stating that: "They would never forgive that person"

They only condemn themselves with such an attitude.

For a true Christian should always forgive.
Knowing that if we cant forgive others who sin against us, by what right do we expect our Lord to forgive us when we sin against Him?

The standard we use to forgive others by, is the same standard use to forgive us by.
No one is disputing that ,what is disputable is quoting scripture to someone whose shoes you have never walked in and you are not being sensitive to her need .

What is remarkable you don't believe God is forgiving enough to forgive those who do not believe in Him , but is so unforgiving that He will send them to what ever interpretation of hell you believe in .

So why ask the OP to do something the god you believe in is not willing to do .
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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Another issue that some foolish people try to twist into looking like a reason to get a divorce is "I married the wrong person"

The thinking they have is that because they married a non-believer that this somehow will allow them to justify getting a divorce.

It dont!

If you are a christian and you have married a non-believer and you worry that this goes against a verse of the bible about being "Unequally yoked"....then ask God to forgive you!

Because...He will!

So being married to a non-Christian is not the unpardonable sin at all.
If this issue is a problem that is on your heart, just ask God to forgive you and this burden will be lifted off of you by the cross....
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:07 AM
 
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No one is disputing that .
That is wise...because all that I post on this issue is the truth and is the only position God has on the issue because it is the only position found in the bible.

All the other ideas, concepts, and different ways people have come up with to deal with this issue that disagree with what I have posted from the Bible are in error and will only lead to more errors and sin.

God's point of view will save and last.
Men's thinking will fail and pass away.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:14 AM
 
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so many people are so quick to go on and on in stating that: "They would never forgive that person"

They only condemn themselves with such an attitude.

For a true Christian should always forgive.
Knowing that if we cant forgive others who sin against us, by what right do we expect our Lord to forgive us when we sin against Him?

The standard we use to forgive others by, is the same standard use to forgive us by.
Amen.....

Matthew 6:14-15
14. “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Matthew 7:2
2. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

Mark 11:25
25. “And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.

Ephesians 4:32
32. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

Colossians 3:13
13. bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.

Matthew 18:35
35. “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”

James 2:13
13. For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:24 AM
 
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There's a huge difference between doctrine and life . Jesus said "The words that i speak to you are spirit and life".

Unfortunaley we think quoting the scripture is the same thing.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:25 AM
 
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Amen.....

Matthew 6:14-15
14. “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
So true.
This is the Lord's only answer on this question.

This same answer of always seeking to forgive should rule the day in our lives with people who offend,attack, or sin against us by thought , word, or deed.

It clearly also should rule over the marriage that is in trouble too!
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:31 AM
 
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There's a huge difference between doctrine and life ..
Unless you allow the writen word of God to be your guide, you become like a ship without a rudder in a storm...
Being blown from one wind of advice to the next with no true star to be your guide in the night.

But the good christian like myself always turns to the bible first when looking for personal direction over important issues.
Unless the Good Christian can find some support for an action like getting a divorce in the Text we dare not be so self-centered and dollar foolish as to go off on our own and do what we Know God hates....


So "Back it up with a verse" of leave it be,
Knowing that God heals all wounds, and when we forgive others who have caused us harm it is pleasing to God for He is also long suffering our own sins against Him.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:33 AM
 
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There's a huge difference between doctrine and life . Jesus said "The words that i speak to you are spirit and life".

Unfortunaley we think quoting the scripture is the same thing.

Well....pcamps, who on earth do you think spoke those words of life?

Matthew 6:14-15
14.
“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

The Scripture is life, Jesus is life, Jesus is the word.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:34 AM
 
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Brokenheartedintn i trust and know the Lord will make clear to you what to do .

It is so easy for those whose spouses have never cheated on them to say i would forgive them and try and work it out .

Yet we think we are so spiritual because we know how to quote scripture.
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