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Are you confused? I am making the claim that Downtown Chicago blows Center City Philadelphia out of the water when it comes to shopping. What part of my post did you not understand?
No, but I'm confused now. What gave you the impression I didn't understand something about your post?
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Originally Posted by johnatl
ALL of Philadelphia's upscale Department Stores are outside of the City, in a suburban County.
Yes, I heard ya the first time. And my post was commenting on this.
Oh, really? Now why the hell would Philly's shopping mecca be way out in a different county?
Chicago has a completely different relationship with its suburbs than Philadelphia, doesn't it? Chicago suburbs have everything from predominately black ghettos (Harvey) to middle class majority-black towns (Matteson) to Hispanic enclaves (Cicero) to liberal "racially integrated" areas (Oak Park) to places of incredible wealth and prestige (Winnetka) to more stereotypical suburbia (Arlington Heights). What are Philly suburbs? Just a bunch of middle class, moderately conservative, white areas, mostly.
Oh, and Chicago suburbanites across the board have great pride in their city. Philadelphia suburbanites are afraid to go to their city.
Philly's suburbs are not moderatly conservative, they are just left of center. Philly's burbs are far from all the same, and have way more character than the majority of chicago's suburbia, considering most of them are older than anything in or around chicago. There are ghetto suburbs, not that its a good thing, (Norristown, Upper Darby, Chester, Bristol etc). Chicagoland burbs can't compete with Philly's wealthy prestigious suburbs(the Mainline). The Philly area runs the gamut with all types of suburbs from the worst(camden and chester), to some of the nations best(Villanova, Gladwyn, Merion etc.), and everything in between.
City to City Chicago has no answer for Center City, but overall Chicago is more urban over a larger area, because its a significantly larger city/metro.
Would it make you feel better if we said chicago is just like NYC. What you have said about Philadelphia is untrue, but if it makes you feel better then go for it.
Looks to me that it's you guys that can't keep NYC out of your mouths.
If you think there are very many people outside of the East Coast who give much thought to Philly, Boston or any of the cities in New Jersey, keep dreaming. Chicago is on the map. We have movies and songs and national exposure. Philly is a kinda ghetto city that forever remains in New York's shadow - similar to how Saint Louis is a kinda ghetto city that forever remains in Chicago's shadow. Philly is a cheap cigar that a lot of people cut open and use to smoke weed.
Philly is more popular in film than Chicago, Chicago is extremely ghetto and has a boring Midwestern culture and vibe. Chicago is full of gangs and people with a inferiority complex. I can play your childish game too oh and please stop mentioning NY please.
Philly is more popular in film than Chicago, Chicago is extremely ghetto and has a boring Midwestern culture and vibe. Chicago is full of gangs and people with a inferiority complex. I can play your childish game too oh and please stop mentioning NY please.
Philly is more popular in film than Chicago, Chicago is extremely ghetto and has a boring Midwestern culture and vibe. Chicago is full of gangs and people with a inferiority complex. I can play your childish game too oh and please stop mentioning NY please.
now that's just stupid
chicago is far more popular in film - NYC, LA, Chicago
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What you have said about Philadelphia is untrue, but if it makes you feel better then go for it.
