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Yeah, not sure a Mexican or Salvadorian population is adding to the cosmopolitan feel of a city.
So you can now PICK and CHOOSE groups which can add to a cosmopolitan feeling to a city.
That was a fun exercise. Here in the Northeast, we accept every single group and single person for what they are regardless of what they are so they can add to the totality of our society.
And again, what about all the different Asian groups?
Look, I voted for Florida based on the fact that Florida gets large numbers of immigrants from almost every country in the Western Hemisphere while Texas and Northern California are a bit more limited but from a wider swath of the world, but the sort of hyperbole that is being posted about SF , Houston, or Dallas not being diverse or cosmopolitan is kind of, well stupid. And this is coming from someone who lives near the most diverse, cosmopolitan center of the world.
The census is weird when it comes to languages. They dont post all languages just what they consider the largest and the rest are divied up into groups, anyway here are the largest Foreign Languages & Language Groups by 5,000+ speakers, 2010 Census
25,000+ speakers in Bold Red
Dallas-Ft Worth, TX: 19 groups Spanish 1,360,552 Vietnamese 64,803 Other Asian Languages 39,297 African Languages 38,223 Chinese 34,608 Korean 28,737
Other Indic Languages 24,235
French 21,323
Arabic 19,891
Hindi 19,742
Urdu 16,884
Tagalog 16,271
German 14,245
Persian 12,123
Gujarati 11,428
Laotian 7,604
Russian 6,219
Portuguese 6,077
Other Indo-European Languages 5,381
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville, TX: 17 groups Spanish 1,612,876 Vietnamese 99,264 Chinese 63,564 Urdu 34,288 African Languages 29,517 Other Asian Languages 27,235
Tagalog 24,138
Arabic 24,020
Hindi 23,603
French 20,025
Other Indic Languages 17,804
Korean 12,907
German 11,563
Gujarati 11,431
Persian 8,148
Portuguese 6,894
Russian 6,227
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL: 19 groups Spanish 2,091,782 French 54,774
Chinese 22,731
Italian 20,348
Portuguese 47,941
Hebrew 13,601
Other Asian Languages 13,163
Tagalog 13,153
Russian 12,318
Vietnamese 11,494
Arabic 10,910
Other Indo-European Languages 7,745
Polish 7,220
Urdu 7,017
German 6,749
Yiddish 5,883
Other West Germanic Languages 5,831
Gujarati 5,706
Greek 5,114
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA: 30 groups Spanish 1,253,315 Chinese 485,172 Tagalog 238,760 Vietnamese 160,127 Other Asian Languages 80,691 Korean 66,623 Hindi 66,528 Other Indic Languages 56,746 French 43,655 Russian 42,122 Persian 41,596 Japanese 38,152 Pacific Island Languages 37,310 Arabic 32,498 German 29,884
Portuguese 24,140
Italian 21,733
African Languages 21,282
Gujarati 15,769
Urdu 14,693
Camdodian 12,841
Thai 10,012
Hebrew 7,749
Greek 7,645
Other West Germanic Languages 7,558
Scandinavian Languages 7,375
Other Slavic Languages 7,251
Other Indo-European Languages 7,168
Serbo-Croatian 6,341
Laotian 6,148
The only real surprise for me was that Miami only has 4,544 speakers of African Languages, for some reason I thought they would have had more.
In N. Cali there are two 400,000+ Cities on the list being San Jose and San Francisco
In Texas there are 5..
No Cities in Florida were ranked but if you look at the notes on the bottom it explicitly states Miami didn't make the 400,000 point since this is City not Metro to be included but if it were would've been one of the highest.
If the cut-off were 200,000 I can almost guarantee the #1 city in the country would be Hialeah FL with Non-Hispanic Whites making up only 4% of the population. Can anyone here name ANY other city (even if not in TX or N.Cali I'd be interested to know) with a sub 5% White Population that is over 200,000 people?
The only real surprise for me was that Miami only has 4,544 speakers of African Languages, for some reason I thought they would have had more.
The Bay Area DOES have 2 million more people than the Miami area.
However, despite the fact that most of Miami's foreign born come from one area of the world, the fact of the matter is it's still more saturated with foreign born (IE people with connections outside of the US) than the Bay Area or any of the Texas metro areas are.
That's why it feels more international and cosmopolitan. There is an aura of "foreigness" that you get in SoFla.
In N. Cali there are two 400,000+ Cities on the list being San Jose and San Francisco
In Texas there are 5..
No Cities in Florida were ranked but if you look at the notes on the bottom it explicitly states Miami didn't make the 400,000 point since this is City not Metro to be included but if it were would've been one of the highest.
If the cut-off were 200,000 I can almost guarantee the #1 city in the country would be Hialeah FL with Non-Hispanic Whites making up only 4% of the population.
So would Oakland, Sacramento and several other NorCal cities.
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Can anyone here name ANY other city (even if not in TX or N.Cali I'd be interested to know) with a sub 5% White Population that is over 200,000 people?
Cities that over 50% of any racial group are really not as diverse as those with no majority.
The Bay Area DOES have 2 million more people than the Miami area.
Then why does Miami have a far higher total number of more poor minorities?
Persons For Whom Povrerty Status is Determined, 2010
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 757,151 20.8% of all minorities
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 585,663 13.7% of all minorities
I don't get the focus on the "diversity' aspect of this equation. There could be people of other ethnic backgrounds who were born in the United States who are as American as some 10th generation Boston Brahmin.
In terms of foreign born, its hard to beat Miami. I don't think any US metro area, NYC included, is as saturated in % by those who were born outside of the US as Miami is. Numbers are a different story, but unlike any of the CA or TX cities, those foreign born aren't majorly from 5-6 countries, they are from 23 countries all over Latin America and a litany from the Caribbean.
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Then why does Miami have a far higher total number of more poor minorities?
Persons For Whom Povrerty Status is Determined, 2010
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Pompano Beach, FL 757,151 20.8% of all minorities
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland, CA 585,663 13.7% of all minorities
Does it matter how many of the minorities are rich or poor? I think its wrong to look down on those who are trying to make the American dream happen for them because some have had better success than others.
As a person of color, I don't appreciate that elitism.
So would Oakland, Sacramento and several other NorCal cities.
Cities that over 50% of any racial group are really not as diverse as those with no majority.
The point of this thread is most international, not most diverse. If you have
A) 10,000 people from Cuba
B)5,000 people from America and 5,000 from Cuba
then yes the second choice is more diverse, but the point of this thread is international and the first choice is certainly more international..
If the cut-off were 200,000 I can almost guarantee the #1 city in the country would be Hialeah FL with Non-Hispanic Whites making up only 4% of the population. Can anyone here name ANY other city (even if not in TX or N.Cali I'd be interested to know) with a sub 5% White Population that is over 200,000 people?
Hialeah, FL is the most Spanish-speaking city in the United States. Over 94% of its 225,000 residents are Spanish speakers and over 70% of its residents are Cuban-born, it's practically a suburb of Cuba.
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