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Well, some people do. Like me or some of these other guys who've known about mission burritos before chipotle made the rounds. It's definitely not known like the Philly cheesesteak, but there's a sizable number of people who know where they come from.
This is the first I have ever heard of them. One more mental note to add to the file.
I would say Boston/Philly/Chicago/LA on good mix of locals and transplants, which to me is very important for the identity and sustained growth of a city. It seems SF and DC barely have any local culture nowadays.
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Yes, but nobody draws the connection to San Francisco. It's like Pee Wee Kirkland, the street basketball legend, always talking about how Julius Erving came up to Harlem and stole all of his "patented" moves. When we think of the "around the backboard" layup or the "Rock-a-Bye Baby" slam dunk, we think of Dr. J, not Pee Wee Kirkland, even if there is merit (there's not) to Kirkland's claim that Dr. J was just a copycat.
Just to clarify about the shopping question, if we're talking about high end shopping streets then its Chicago and San Francisco---but overall shopping within city limits is definitely going to be Los Angeles imo. Not really close.
I was referring to high end shopping street as opposed to high end shopping throughout the city. It is more about the experience one has when on these streets as opposed to the number of Gucci stores in the city. Michigan Ave is a destination street, people who have no intention of going into the stores can still stroll and take in the energy of the city, window shop, check out the architecture, etc. I would say 5th ave in New York serves the same function. Rodeo Drive (while technically not in LA) didn't serve the same function as 5th ave and Michigan ave the few times I was there.
Did Pat's, Geno's, Jim's, Tony Luke's (I like how these are all names) and Blackbird (Vegan cheesesteak, surprisingly okay) are the ones I remember trying, but I might have had more. I go down to Philly pretty often and for decent durations. I'm not saying cheesesteaks are bad--I'm just saying that these are okay. It's not really looking for a delicacy, but it's weird that so many of our city's delicacies is just a crapload of saucy or greasy salty meat and stuff piled on a starch. We really are gunning for number one in obesity with our specialities here.
The places in bold are all terrible, imo. I think people get sold on the long lines (must be good if people are in line!) and the whole, "Wit or widout" thing. The fact that they're conveniently located in touristy areas doesn't hurt either. It's too bad that those places shape the outside perception of the cheesesteak.
The cheesesteak is a fairly common thing, so just go to any small shop that advertises them in the window and give it a shot. If you're driving, you can stop by two of my favorite spots, which are located in non-crime ridden areas.
The places in bold are all terrible, imo. I think people get sold on the long lines (must be good if people are in line!) and the whole, "Wit or widout" thing. The fact that they're conveniently located in touristy areas doesn't hurt either. It's too bad that those places shape the outside perception of the cheesesteak.
The cheesesteak is a fairly common thing, so just go to any small shop that advertises them in the window and give it a shot. If you're driving, you can stop by two of my favorite spots, which are located in non-crime ridden areas.
I tried cheesesteak at a handful of non big-name places and thought it was alright--just didn't have a really stand-out experience in any of them. I'm generally not in those areas when I'm in Philly, but I might try to swing by next time. Do you feel like they're really worth it?
I was referring to high end shopping street as opposed to high end shopping throughout the city. It is more about the experience one has when on these streets as opposed to the number of Gucci stores in the city. Michigan Ave is a destination street, people who have no intention of going into the stores can still stroll and take in the energy of the city, window shop, check out the architecture, etc. I would say 5th ave in New York serves the same function. Rodeo Drive (while technically not in LA) didn't serve the same function as 5th ave and Michigan ave the few times I was there.
Yes, but ultimately a shopper is out to shop and to be honest, I dont think the city of LA even needs Beverly Hills to royally romp the other cities in this thread when it comes to shopping at the high end, mid end or wholesale level.
I mean we can throw some punches too, but LA generally has far greater variety of everything at anytime than anywhere in the Americas not named New York.
Yes, but ultimately a shopper is out to shop and to be honest, I dont think the city of LA even needs Beverly Hills to royally romp the other cities in this thread when it comes to shopping at the high end, mid end or wholesale level.
I mean we can throw some punches too, but LA generally has far greater variety of everything at anytime than anywhere in the Americas not named New York.
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The criteria isn't what city has the highest concentration of high end stores, I am specifically talking about a shopping street.
I was referring to high end shopping street as opposed to high end shopping throughout the city. It is more about the experience one has when on these streets as opposed to the number of Gucci stores in the city. Michigan Ave is a destination street, people who have no intention of going into the stores can still stroll and take in the energy of the city, window shop, check out the architecture, etc. I would say 5th ave in New York serves the same function. Rodeo Drive (while technically not in LA) didn't serve the same function as 5th ave and Michigan ave the few times I was there.
Within city limits I think the most well-known high-end shopping street in LA is Melrose. My wife and I were walking down Melrose the other day near Fairfax and couldn't help but notice how incredibly douchey Melrose can be. It is definitely a unique street but cannot hold a candle to Michigan Ave / Newbury St. (or Rodeo).
Actually the end of Hollywood Boulevard near Highland Ave could be considered a decent high-end shopping street, though I think it would lose major points because the majority of the retailers are within the Hollywood / Highland complex.
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