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Old 05-19-2015, 08:56 AM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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Interesting fact for Gary:

"The 2010 Census crystallized Gary's decline: The population, which peaked at 178,320 in 1960, is now 80,294. From 2000 through last year's count, Gary lost 22% of its residents. The city's unemployment rate in February was 9.8%.''

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Gary, Ind., struggles with population loss - USATODAY.com


There must be a very good reason why most have left this *hithole
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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Interesting fact for Gary:

"The 2010 Census crystallized Gary's decline: The population, which peaked at 178,320 in 1960, is now 80,294. From 2000 through last year's count, Gary lost 22% of its residents. The city's unemployment rate in February was 9.8%.''

Quoted from and good article to read:

Gary, Ind., struggles with population loss - USATODAY.com


There must be a very good reason why most have left this *hithole
It is/was a company steel town, as the city was named after the president of US Steel at the time, Elbert Gary. Considering the decline in steel production, the decline in population is not surprising.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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I can't believe this comparison has turned into an actual debate, or why these two cities were chosen. I can of a few other Midwestern cities that are size compareable to El Paso that one MIGHT be able to make a vs. thread off of. This is pretty much the last one i'd think of.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:37 AM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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It is/was a company steel town, as the city was named after the president of US Steel at the time, Elbert Gary. Considering the decline in steel production, the decline in population is not surprising.
Yes, and for a while it was the murder capital of the US. You couldn't drive down Broadway without the fear of getting shot.
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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I can't believe this comparison has turned into an actual debate, or why these two cities were chosen. I can of a few other Midwestern cities that are size compareable to El Paso that one MIGHT be able to make a vs. thread off of. This is pretty much the last one i'd think of.
Yes, unusual debate for a strange comparison. People including me just wanted to differentiate the two cities.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Again with this...?

BECAUSE of you saying that, it puts Gary behind El Paso. Because what you're basically saying is that Gary can't hold its own on its own, therefore, El Paso is the better city.

If you're going to say that a city is better because it's next to a certain other city, then you may as well just make this "El Paso vs. Chicago".
No, because El Paso is a stand-alone city and Gary is a suburb of the city of CHICAGO. Living in Gary = living in Chicagoland.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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Another plus for El Paso includes having some really spectacular nature a bit further outside of town, but within two hours, including Guadalupe Mountains NP, Carlsbad Caverns NP, White Sands, Organ Mountains and Prehistoric Trackways. As well as the aforementioned nature even closer to the city. For the outdoorsman, I think it's difficult to argue that El Paso doesn't hold a solid edge. It also appears that El Paso has a list of attractions within the city, and the ability to watch college sports and minor league baseball within city limits. That's enticing.

However, Chicago is Chicago, and the Indiana Dunes are pretty darn nice to have at hand.

What I don't know about though, is Gary. If I were a random person coming to check out the area to move, and sightsee, etc., what are 10 pretty nice things (excluding Chicago and Indiana Dunes) that I would have to see or show visitors while there that would change visitors impressions of the city?

I am certain they exist, because Youngstown (another city that has been considered miserable by many), definitely has at least 10, if not more pretty darn nice things to visit while there. I'm assuming Gary has the same, but want some evidence, as there appears to be not much available.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Westside Grand Rapids
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Yes, unusual debate for a strange comparison. People including me just wanted to differentiate the two cities.
I can understand wanting to do that. I think the cities being in different dimensions really speaks for itself in any case . No sane person would ever think of them in the same sentence unless they were saying there is no way to compare them at all.
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Old 05-19-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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Yes, and for a while it was the murder capital of the US. You couldn't drive down Broadway without the fear of getting shot.
Gary for all of its crime really isn't or was like that. While random acts of crime occurs everywhere even in Gary for the most part if you don't bother them, they won't bother you. Mind your business and you will pretty much be OK. This weekend, the beach opens and Gary gets a lot south Chicago/burb traffic to lake street beach and Marquette park and 99% of them have no issues.

As far as being a burb it isn't. Chicago-gary-naperville-il-inwi is a consolidated area with three metropolitan divisions (Gary, Chicago and Kenosha, wi). No different than the metroplex or San Fran/Oakland/San jose ornew york-newark. There are 11 consolidated areas in the country. They each Stand alone and function as one large area. You either follow Chicago street grid or Gary street grid for the most part.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:56 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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No, because El Paso is a stand-alone city and Gary is a suburb of the city of CHICAGO. Living in Gary = living in Chicagoland.
If that's true, then all it does is just highlight my point.
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