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View Poll Results: Most cosmopolitan?
Chicago 34 28.10%
San Francisco 27 22.31%
Toronto 42 34.71%
Washington D.C. 18 14.88%
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Old 03-03-2016, 05:57 AM
 
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There's plenty of rankings on the subject.
Most Expensive U.S. Cities to Live In
Then at the very least, this shows they are overall in the same orbit on this measure--hence why I said relocating from one to the other would essentially be a later move.

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To each his own. For someone like me, I would **never** move there to begin with it, but compared to here, DC is definitely cheaper and less hurried imo.

This seems to have rubbed you the wrong way?
Based on your posts in this forum, I don't think you'd ever move to any other city period.

Again, the two cities are lot more alike here than they are different so it's pretty much a matter of splitting hairs on your end. As I said before, nobody is moving from SF to DC for a cheaper COL and less hurried pace because for all practical purposes, they are the same here. DC isn't Sacramento or Kansas City compared to SF as you're making it out to be.
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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Its ok... Can't win them all.. If you do come back perhaps you could post in the Toronto forums indicating what you are interested in - what stirs your soul and perhaps we can lead you in the right direction. I've got some great travel advice from C/D posters that is very helpful in making a trip anywhere more fulfilling. Sometimes its good to be open to what local people have to say.. I didn't warm up to Barcelona on my first trip but after meeting some locals they completely changed my view of the city on subsequent visits. Each time just gets better and better than subsequent visits.
Thank you, I sincerely appreciate the offer. Funny that you mention your initial experience w/ Barcelona as I too thought it was slightly overrated.

Now it seems I have to go back to go back to Toronto and Barcelona. lol
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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There's plenty of rankings on the subject.
Most Expensive U.S. Cities to Live In


To each his own. For someone like me, I would **never** move there to begin with it, but compared to here, DC is definitely cheaper and less hurried imo.

This seems to have rubbed you the wrong way?
Why would he care what you think of DC especially in comparison to San Fran when our people have no interest in living there for the most part. There is nothing there for us. I always find it funny when people talk about various topics when comparing cities assuming their cultural or racial preferences when it comes to nightlife or food etc. is shared by everyone. In a current thread on here about Austin and Baltimore, people are saying the nightlife scene is so much better in Austin versus Baltimore when the reality is nightlife for White people is probably better in Austin, but nightlife for Black people is better in Baltimore.

I'm sure for White people and Asian people, San Fran is the greatest place on earth, however, for Black people, NYC, DC, and Atlanta are the greatest places on earth because they have things that appeal to us culturally. Nobody shares your experience except people who culturally relate to you. That's the reality of race and culture. Sure, there are a few exceptions to the rule like there will always be, but they are a small minority compared to the whole. San Fran has a lot for Asians and White people. It does not have a lot for Black people so you can obviously see why we prefer the east coast and the south from Texas to Florida and on up to New York. San Fran is not on our radar.

Sorry if that rubs you the wrong way, but the numbers don't lie. We don't care about San Francisco.
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Then at the very least, this shows they are overall in the same orbit on this measure--hence why I said relocating from one to the other would essentially be a later move.



Based on your posts in this forum, I don't think you'd ever move to any other city period.

Again, the two cities are lot more alike here than they are different so it's pretty much a matter of splitting hairs on your end. As I said before, nobody is moving from SF to DC for a cheaper COL and less hurried pace because for all practical purposes, they are the same here. DC isn't Sacramento or Kansas City compared to SF as you're making it out to be.
No, thats your hypersensitivity getting offended.

Actually the median home price in the DC Area is less than half the home price in the Bay Area, because people are willing to pay twice as much in SF as they are in DC.

And the more I look into it, no wonder I feel this way:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/201...0927-thumb.PNG
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:00 AM
 
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No, thats your hypersensitivity getting offended.
I'm not hypersensitive; I'm impartial. I'm not from DC nor do I live there and I'm just calling it like I see it.

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Actually the median home price in the DC Area is less than half the home price in the Bay Area, because people are willing to pay twice as much in SF as they are in DC.

And the more I look into it, no wonder I feel this way:
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/201...0927-thumb.PNG
The point was about cost of living overall, not just housing. DC and SF are in the same orbit when it comes to overall cost of living and "pace," which is quite subjective.

At any point, this has been run into the ground enough.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'm sure for White people and Asian people, San Fran is the greatest place on earth, however, for Black people, NYC, DC, and Atlanta are the greatest places on earth because they have things that appeal to us culturally.
Haha sorry but the Northeast is losing the most Blacks and this has been the case for 40 years.
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Res...blog.jpg?la=en

They are moving to Southern areas like DC and Atlanta and such.

It's all well documented by the census bureau and so your opinion is sadly inaccurate.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I'm not hypersensitive; I'm impartial. I'm not from DC nor do I live there and I'm just calling it like I see it.



The point was about cost of living overall, not just housing. DC and SF are in the same orbit when it comes to overall cost of living and "pace," which is quite subjective.
Housing is usually a household's greatest monthly expenditure overall.

And the SF Urbanized area is about twice as densely populated as DC, not to mention SF City is about 80% more densely populated than the city of Washington.
http://static.seattletimes.com/wp-co...cc-300x180.jpg
DC is very spacious and much less claustrophobic than SF, which is 2nd to NY is city density and 2nd to LA in urban area density.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Haha sorry but the Northeast is losing the most Blacks and this has been the case for 40 years.
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Res...blog.jpg?la=en

They are moving to Southern areas like DC and Atlanta and such.

It's all well documented by the census bureau and so your opinion is sadly inaccurate.
Lol....I suggest you go read the "Criteria to be a Black Mecca" thread before you try to start commenting on what black people like and think especially because you clearly aren't black so you have no expertise in the subject. New York is still one of the top 3 places in the black community.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Lol....I suggest you go read the "Criteria to be a Black Mecca" thread before you try to start commenting on what black people like and think especially because you clearly aren't black so you have no expertise in the subject. New York is still one of the top 3 places in the black community.
No, I suggest you start using actual data when formulating an opinion, and it might be a good idea to put less weight on the rantings of people on the internet.

In fact, the Northeast has been losing Blacks at a much greater rate than any other region since 1975. That's 100% FACT.

The Midwest and West are losing far less.

Only the South is gaining Blacks.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I don't know why you keep acting like you're some expert or knowledgeable on CA's black population. Do you live in some online world or something and take everything you read on here as reality?

It's well known to many who actually live here that the black population of older established cities/areas (Oakland, SF, South LA, etc..) have been migrating to the cheaper exurbs for a while now. There was even a story about in today's paper about long time Oakland residents (all the people they used for the story were black) moving to the far flung suburb of Antioch. You can find plenty of news stories over the years reporting the same thing, blacks moving to cheaper inland suburbs.

The actual number of blacks has actually increased in the state, their proportion of overall population is decreasing but not absolute numbers.

Bay Area's black migration from cities to suburbs:
2001: Up and Out / More blacks leaving inner cities for suburbs - SFGate
2011: Black flight from Oakland to suburbs is reshaping makeup of the city | San Francisco Public Press
2014: Pushed away from the Bay | SocialistWorker.org
TODAY: Why Are Longtime Residents Leaving Oakland? - SFGate
You need to open your eyes:
L.A. Gang Waged War To Eliminate Black People - Hip-Hop and Politics

You are clearly oblivious to what has been happening around you, but black people know what is happening over there. I'll pass and clearly many more of my people will also. This has been talked about in the black community for sometime now. You probably wouldn't know that but it's common knowledge. We are doing just fine on the side and we don't have to worry about stuff like this ignorance.
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