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Old 12-26-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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A lot of world countries also don't have suburbs spreading out in all directions from Downtown. It is absolutely fair to compare these cities, it is the fault of St. Louis that it had so much white flight and became so suburban. If it had responsible urban planning then the richest parts wouldn't all be way out in the burbs
The city of St. Louis is 66 sqaure miles with no ability to annex any of its suburbs due to it being independent from St. Louis County and due to the Mississippi River being the state line with Illinois. Its downtown sits directly on said state line. If you want to compare it to whole administraive districts in foreign countries that include most, if not all, of their suburban sprawl, that's fine, but the fact remains that you're not getting the whole picture of metropolitan St. Louis. That's why it's not even the most dangerous metro area in the country.

As for poor urban planning, its biggest downfall was the city/county divorce in the 19th century. Everything else is typical of what occurred in American cities post-WWII.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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I agree that St. Louis gets screwed by the City/County division, but it's the fault of St. Louis that this happened. Boston and San Francisco also both have really small city limits and neither one of those cities has the same problems that St. Louis does. Those cities are also really well connected with the suburbs, with excellent transportation between the two, and neighborhoods that are essentially an extension of the city. You can make a good argument that Boston and San Fran are both much bigger than their city limits suggest. St Louis is really disjointed however and there are many suburbs and rural areas that are part of the MSA that are really hard to reach. In cities like Detroit there is also a very obvious demographic change immediately outside the city limits, so even tho the suburbs are part of the city economically, they're not really part of the city culturally

Furthermore, some Latin American cities get screwed too. In Colombia, Palmira is part of Cali's Metropolitan Area, but since it's technically a separate city, it gets counted too, so Cali and Palmira both appear on the list despite being one MSA
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:00 PM
 
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All those cities must ask advises from the NYPD... 278 homicides for 8.5 millions people (including the terror attack) not counting the undocumented and the ones that are not counted in the population statistics (roommates) so NYC population is more around 9 - 6.5 millions people and 278 homicides...?
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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All those cities must ask advises from the NYPD... 278 homicides for 8.5 millions people (including the terror attack) not counting the undocumented and the ones that are not counted in the population statistics (roommates) so NYC population is more around 9 - 6.5 millions people and 278 homicides...?
NYC is at 284 as 12/25/2017 if pace stay the same city will finish year with 293 which is under 300 first time since 1940-1950s and overall crime rate will be lowest since 1950s
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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City of Miami 47 ?

Miami Dade County 83( Miami Gardens, North Miami, Hialeah, Homestead, Opa-locka etc)

January to June 30 Miami has record 26 homicides for first 6 months
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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All time record highs:
Columbus, OH 140 homicides population: 860,000
Huntington, West Virginia 19 homicides population: 48,000
Indianapolis: 151 homicides population: 855,000
Baton Rouge, LA 92 homicides population: 227,000
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Jurisdiction: 220 homicides population: 1.5 million
Clark County, NV: 251 homicides population: 2 million
Albuquerque, New Mexico 74 homicides population: 550,000
Topeka, Kansas 29 homicides population: 120,000

Others:

Birmingham, AL 111 homicides population: 210,000
Salt Lake City, UT 11 homicides population: 190,000
Omaha, Nebraska 26 homicides population: 450,000
Lincoln, Nebraska 0 homicides population: 280,000
Denver, Colorado 59 homicides population: 680,000
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department Jurisdiction: 220 homicides population: 1.5 million
Clark County, NV: 251 homicides population: 2 million
Macon, GA: 30 homicides
Kansas City, Missouri: 148 homicides population: 480,000
Stockton, CA: 53 homicides population: 305,000



Salt Lake City: http://www.slcpd.com/ass3ts/uploads/...ol-3-No-50.pdf
Omaha: 2017 homicides - Omaha homicide victims and information - Omaha.com - Omaha World-Herald (Two other homicides since then)
Lincoln: http://cjis.lincoln.ne.gov/HTBIN/CGI.com
Denver: https://www.denvergov.org/content/de...crime-map.html
KC: Man dies of gunshot wound on Christmas Eve in Kansas City | The Kansas City Star
Stockton: Stockton police investigating Christmas Day homicide - News - recordnet.com - Stockton, CA
Columbus: Columbus Sets Grim Record With 140 Homicides This Year | WCBE 90.5 FM
Huntington: The year 2017 brought highs and lows for Huntington | News | herald-dispatch.com
Indianapolis: https://www.theindychannel.com/news/...murder-of-2017
Baton Rouge: Shortage of homicide detectives felt as EBR surpasses homicide record
Albuquerque: http://www.koat.com/article/albuquer...e-abq/14491641
Topeka: http://cjonline.com/news/local/life/...micide-suicide
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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The amount of information i have read and continue so far doesn't reflect in many places. Yes it happens yet the scale your imagining isn't titanic.
You read about it I live around it
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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You read about it I live around it
Likewise.
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:28 PM
 
Location: NYC, VA, JP
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Had no idea about Huntington, what the hell. The opioid crisis is no joke.
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Old 12-26-2017, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Ne
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I’m sad to report, tonight, 3 people shot in the head..dead in North Omaha..

The Omaha homicide total now stands at 29 for 2017.. Equalling the total for 2016; but still down from 50 in 2015..

Peace...
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