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Old 05-30-2019, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Your post is extremely shortsighted. Beto carried Tarrant County in the Senate race. If anything Tarrant County is a battle ground County. Tarrant may not be as liberal as Dallas County but it’s certainly not a deep red County. If anything Collin and and Denton County would be the reason for DFW percentage. Tarrant still votes blue to a much larger extent then both Collin & Denton counties.
Its not so much Fort Worth or Arlington, but the suburbs or North and Northwestern Tarrant County are more conservative than anything in Collin County. That area of Tarrant county is lilly white and extremely church going. Collin County is conservative, but far more diverse in ethnicity and politics than that area of Tarrant. Its Fort Worth and Southeastern Tarrant county that pulls it closer to the center.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Perhaps what is considered conservative or liberal is relative? In Canada and in Western Europe, the Democratic Party would be considered centrist or even slightly right-leaning. I've heard that even the Conservative Party in Canada is slightly more left-leaning than the Democratic Party in America. And you can see this variation within the US as well. The South would generally be more conservative than the Northeast. A Democrat from the South may be more conservative than a Republican from Massachusetts.
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Old 05-30-2019, 04:14 PM
 
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And you can see this variation within the US as well. The South would generally be more conservative than the Northeast. A Democrat from the South may be more conservative than a Republican from Massachusetts.
Socially? Possibly. Fiscally? Ehhh....
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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Just google "Being Black in Austin". You get stuff like this:

https://medium.com/s/story/a-black-w...y-a2447c6049f3

https://www.texasmonthly.com/politic...-about-austin/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/22/o...n-bombing.html

https://www.statesman.com/news/20180...lack-in-austin

I didnt pick and choose. Those were literally the first articles that came up when I googled it.

Replace Austin with Houston and its much different.

Saying Austin is liberal is a true statement, but liberal means different things to different people. Austin has been happy to use gentrification on steroids. Its not bad on the surface, but it didnt push people of color out so white hipsters could move in.

So in conclusion, Austin is liberal but Id hardly call it racially progressive. Same goes for Portland.
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^^^^^^
You should definitely read the article above.
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So I've never been to Austin. But I literally have 0 interest in visiting. I'll probably end up going because everyone says I should. But something even about its vibe and attraction in the media has always rubbed me the wrong way. I think it's that when these "coolest cities" lists come out, they tend to be overwhelmingly white liberals moving there (Austin, Denver, Portland). That to me is extremely boring. Middle class white people who think they're unique is not a culture. Culture comes from people of all backgrounds lifting up a city and participating in its economy equally.

I'm not going to say I'm an expert on Austin Denver Portland, but from what I understand, they largely are attracting the above-mentioned middle class white people who think they're unique. That's an entirely different "liberal" than the kind that lives in a place like NYC Philly LA or even Houston. It's hard to actually explain the difference to someone who isn't firsthand aware of the differences, but I know the types of cities/vibes I'm attracted to are different than the types of cities/vibes that the suburban white kids who wanna liberal move to. The SF liberal is more along the lines of the Austin Denver Portland style now, and I couldn't wait to get out of SF. I always felt more at home with the liberal vibe of NYC LA Chicago Philly.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:46 PM
 
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Its not so much Fort Worth or Arlington, but the suburbs or North and Northwestern Tarrant County are more conservative than anything in Collin County. That area of Tarrant county is lilly white and extremely church going. Collin County is conservative, but far more diverse in ethnicity and politics than that area of Tarrant. Its Fort Worth and Southeastern Tarrant county that pulls it closer to the center.
I most certainly agree with that.
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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https://www.newgeography.com/content...the-white-city




^^^^^^
You should definitely read the article above.
That article could not be more on the mark.
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Old 05-30-2019, 09:21 PM
 
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White ones? Yes, probably more than most other states.
There are lots of white, socially conservative Democrats in the older, industrialized states of the NE and Midwest. As a group, they skew older, unionized, Catholic, blue collar, non-college grads. Not so many who fit this particular set of demographics in the states of the South and West. Many of these folks crossed over to the GOP in the 2016 election (see PA, OH, MI and WI).
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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There are lots of white, socially conservative Democrats in the older, industrialized states of the NE and Midwest. As a group, they skew older, unionized, Catholic, blue collar, non-college grads. Not so many who fit this particular set of demographics in the states of the South and West. Many of these folks crossed over to the GOP in the 2016 election (see PA, OH, MI and WI).
Yep. PA is the most populous of these states and the size/influence of that particular group of voters makes the state stick out a bit within its region.
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Old 05-30-2019, 10:53 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Chapel Hill is located in the same urban area with Durham, so there are two prominent universities included (UNC and Duke). The area probably has one of the nation's highest shares with graduate level degrees. In the Trump era, that tends to correlate with very low support for Republican candidates.
I'd add that Durham's urban area isn't all that large and having two of the three major universities of the Triangle over-weights it with progressives. I'll also add that Durham has a large percentage of African Americans that typically vote Democratic and don't usually prove to be socially conservative as many here are speculating to be true across the board in the AA community.
On the other hand, Raleigh's urban area has the largest of the three major universities but overwhelms Durham's in population and also has the lion's share of the Triangle's suburbs filled with highly educated voters. Raleigh too has a substantial AA community by percentage, but it's nowhere near as large by % as the one in Durham. Raleigh is also one of the most politically engaged places in the country with much higher voter turnout than the national norm with its core county, Wake, casting the most ballots by far of any county in the state, despite having been less populated than Mecklenburg (Charlotte).
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Old 05-31-2019, 01:43 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Yep. PA is the most populous of these states and the size/influence of that particular group of voters makes the state stick out a bit within its region.
One could even say that Pennsylvania is the "Breadbasket of Deplorables," I suppose.
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