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You kind of just answered your own question. Most of black Chicagoans are from the deep south vs most Baltimoreans being from the Carolinas. Mississippi "out-southerns" the Carolinas in every way, shape and form. Plus, black Chicagoans have a very distinct southern drawl. Black Baltimore has a few choice words that are southern (like dug = dog) but not across the board like Chicago. My ex GF from Chicago use to say, she was going to see her Deddie = Daddy.
How does the Carolinas out southern Mississippi? Especially considering the fact the Carolinas have a longer period of slavery and a plantation system than Mississippi. Georgia and South Carolina are considered Deep South. A lot of people from South Carolina and Georgia did migrate to Maryland and other parts of that area as well. I think people are getting caught up in this monolithic Hollywood depiction of the South that doesn’t really exist.
DC's accent is a mix of some northern, some mid atlantic/tidewater and some southern. Some of the northern aspects would be words like bruva = brother, muvah = mother, farvah = father. Some of the southern aspects are curry = carry, earn = aaron or iron.
Yea, DC is harder on the letter "r" than we are. Lol
In Baltimore, we say "Merlin"
In DC, they say "Murlin"
It's hard to explain until you actually hear the difference.
How does the Carolinas out southern Mississippi? Especially considering the fact the Carolinas have a longer period of slavery and a plantation system than Mississippi. Georgia and South Carolina are considered Deep South. A lot of people from South Carolina and Georgia did migrate to Maryland and other parts of that area as well. I think people are getting caught up in this monolithic Hollywood depiction of the South that doesn’t really exist.
I said Mississippi is considerable more southern than the (North) Carolinas. It's considered the deep south and the Carolinas aren't. Mississippi is still flying the Confederate flag on its state flag. Plus, just listen to the average black person from Chicago speak vs blacks from Baltimore. Now I will admit, whites from Baltimore have a much more southern drawl than whites from Chicago.
You kind of just answered your own question. Most of black Chicagoans are from the deep south vs most Baltimoreans being from the Carolinas. Mississippi "out-southerns" the Carolinas in every way, shape and form. Plus, black Chicagoans have a very distinct southern drawl. Black Baltimore has a few choice words that are southern (like dug = dog) but not across the board like Chicago. My ex GF from Chicago use to say, she was going to see her Deddie = Daddy.
I know of no southerner that pronounces dog like that. At least those in Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, or Arkansas. That is uniquely Baltimore. Everything else you said I can agree with. I would say South Carolina is every bit as Deep South as Mississippi. Perhaps upstate is maybe different.
How does the Carolinas out southern Mississippi? Especially considering the fact the Carolinas have a longer period of slavery and a plantation system than Mississippi. Georgia and South Carolina are considered Deep South. A lot of people from South Carolina and Georgia did migrate to Maryland and other parts of that area as well. I think people are getting caught up in this monolithic Hollywood depiction of the South that doesn’t really exist.
Nobody considers the Carolinas more Southern than Mississippi. Nobody.
I would say South Carolina is every bit as Deep South as Mississippi. Perhaps upstate is maybe different.
What's interesting is that SC wasn't even included in the original definition of the Deep South. A lot of folks don't know this.
Though often used in history books to refer to the seven states that originally formed the Confederacy, the term "Deep South" did not come into general usage until long after the Civil War ended. Up until that time, "Lower South" was the primary designation for those states. When "Deep South" first began to gain mainstream currency in print in the middle of the 20th century, it applied to the states and areas of Georgia, southern Alabama, northern Florida, Mississippi, north Louisiana, southern Arkansas and East Texas, all historic areas of cotton plantations and slavery. This was the part of the South many considered the "most Southern".
Later, the general definition expanded to include all of North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana, and often taking in bordering areas of East Texas and North Florida. In its broadest application today, the Deep South is considered to be "an area roughly coextensive with the old cotton belt from eastern North Carolina through South Carolina west into East Texas, with extensions north and south along the Mississippi".
I know of no southerner that pronounces dog like that. At least those in Georgia, Texas, Louisiana, or Arkansas. That is uniquely Baltimore. Everything else you said I can agree with. I would say South Carolina is every bit as Deep South as Mississippi. Perhaps upstate is maybe different.
Negative. The Carolinas are not considered the deep south. (Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and maybe Louisiana).
From a historical perspective, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana and northern Arkansas are the main culprits when one thinks of in your face segregation, blatant racism, the Klan, lynchings, and systemic discrimination. South Carolina is no walk in the park, however, Mississippi and Alabama have a long list of well publicized atrocities against African Americans. Mississippi also still flies the Confederate flag within its state flag.
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