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Take the Roissybus from CDG to Paris and yes you're going through farmland. Or look out the plane window upon approach and you'll see that CDG is in the middle of farms. How about you look at a map if you don't believe me? BTW - Paris has banlieue, many which are comprised of soviet-style blocks to house the unemployed North African immigrants...guess that's your idea of a real city.
Besides, you're under the mistaken notion that I care whether Chicago is surrounded by farmland because there's nothing wrong with farmland. If anything, I wish Chicago was surrounded by more farmland instead of suburbs since it wastes a lot of taxpayer money to provide infrastructure in lower denisty suburban areas. What's NY's budget deficit again?
The point is virtually every metro area in the world includes some farmland. I'm only seeing half the conversation, though, so others may be making tangential arguments.
The point is virtually every metro area in the world includes some farmland. I'm only seeing half the conversation, though, so others may be making tangential arguments.
There's a a lot of things that you only "see half" of!....
There is almost no farmland between Paris and CDG, see with google earth, the only farmland called Barreau de Gonesse will be urbanised soon.
You proved my point. There is farmland near Paris...even if the farmland between CDG & Paris is urbanised soon (doubtful), there's still a ****load of farmland near CDG, which is only 17 miles outside the city limits of Paris. As you said, see Google Earth or just open your eyes when you're flying in.
I think it's good to have farmland in the metro area, so your argument isn't with me. It's with the Harry Potter fan who says farmland is bad...only if it's near Chicago though.
I think it's good to have farmland in the metro area, so your argument isn't with me. It's with the Harry Potter fan who says farmland is bad...only if it's near Chicago though.
The point is not whether it is good or bad to have real farmland in your metro area but what inluences the city: an urbanized, densely populated industrialized region or a farmland, as it reflects on the character of the city. Chicago being a queen of Corn Belt is disadvantaged here as it is being heavily influenced by the primarly agricultural region it is located in.
As a matter of fact you can feel it all around Chicago, mentality of its inhabitants is much closer to that of Peoria than of Boston or Philly. You can build the highest buildings but for the population to change mentality, to becom truly urban - it takes generations. East Coast and its cities are much older and had much more time to go through this process, Chicago is still struggling. Look at New York City and the condensation of cultural institutions in this city, clearly the people there have different needs, different aspirations than Chicagoans.
The point is not whether it is good or bad to have real farmland in your metro area but what inluences the city: an urbanized, densely populated industrialized region or a farmland, as it reflects on the character of the city. Chicago being a queen of Corn Belt is disadvantaged here as it is being heavily influenced by the primarly agricultural region it is located in.
As a matter of fact you can feel it all around Chicago, mentality of its inhabitants is much closer to that of Peoria than of Boston or Philly. You can build the highest buildings but for the population to change mentality, to becom truly urban - it takes generations. East Coast and its cities are much older and had much more time to go through this process, Chicago is still struggling. Look at New York City and the condensation of cultural institutions in this city, clearly the people there have different needs, different aspirations than Chicagoans.
You just typed a lot of garbage. None of that made any valid point at all. It's like you tried to make it something good, but fell short, very short.
Metropolitan Chicago has farms, almost all of DuPage County is one huge farm, same for many parts of Lake County. The sprawling from Lake County to Southern Wisconsin is a string of subdivisions, surrounded by farms. But why does any of this matter to you? If you want to talk about sprawl and farmland being included in Metros, go post on a Houston or DFW Thread.
How long will it take before you learn that you "facts" don't hold any water? You're resulting to talking about farmland in the metro...? Do you realize how sad you look?
You just typed a lot of garbage. None of that made any valid point at all. It's like you tried to make it something good, but fell short, very short.
Metropolitan Chicago has farms, almost all of DuPage County is one huge farm, same for many parts of Lake County. The sprawling from Lake County to Southern Wisconsin is a string of subdivisions, surrounded by farms. But why does any of this matter to you? If you want to talk about sprawl and farmland being included in Metros, go post on a Houston or DFW Thread.
How long will it take before you learn that you "facts" don't hold any water? You're resulting to talking about farmland in the metro...? Do you realize how sad you look?
Even DuPage county has no farms. If anything there's mostly trees in Du Page county. There's also about a million people in Dupage county.
You just typed a lot of garbage. None of that made any valid point at all. It's like you tried to make it something good, but fell short, very short.
Maybe you should just read it again. Chicago is heavily influenced by the agricultural region it is located in. This reflects on mentality of its population, its culture, art, media, food etc etc. New York on the other hand is located in densely populated Bosh-Wash corridor which industrial and urban traditions are reflected in New York superior culture, arts, media, food and truly urban mentality of its inhabitants. Chicago draws talent from Peoria, Des Moines, Milwaukee and Indy, New York from Philly, Boston, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Maybe you should just read it again. Chicago is heavily influenced by the agricultural region it is located in. This reflects on mentality of its population, its culture, art, media, food etc etc. New York on the other hand is located in densely populated Bosh-Wash corridor which industrial and urban traditions are reflected in New York superior culture, arts, media, food and truly urban mentality of its inhabitants. Chicago draws talent from Peoria, Des Moines, Milwaukee and Indy, New York from Philly, Boston, New Jersey and Connecticut.
Skyline - stay on topic. This isn't a "Bash Chicago in Any Conceivable Way" thread - it's a skyline thread. Your posts all sound the same.
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There's a a lot of things that you only "see half" of!....
