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And I wonder what in PA you consider more scenic than places like Acadia National Park in Maine, Cape Cod, Marthas Vineyard, Nantucket, NH's Lakes region, or the White and Green Mountains of NH/VT?
Valley Forge
Washington's Crossing and New Hope, PA
The Poconos
Lancaster County and Amish country
Kennett Square (Longwood Gardens + mushroom growing)
Jim Thorpe, PA
Cape May, NJ
Haha while I applaud your post sir the google maps car must have driven through the Italian Market either early in the morning or later in the afternoon when everyone is closing shop....this is not what it looks like during the day. It is actually very active during the day.
For example
http://www.visitphilly.com/tours/philadelphia/italian-market-tour/
I have a question to ask those of you who criticize Philadelphia for its problems with crime and poverty: do you like Chicago? If you do, then you're kind of a hypocrite, because Chicago has the same problems with crime and poverty that Philadelphia does. And no, Philadelphia doesn't have those problems to a larger degree than Chicago does either. In fact, the nice part of Chicago is pretty much limited to a strip of land from the University of Chicago north through the Loop into the North Side, no more than two miles from the lake. Outside that area, Chicago is actually pretty ****ty. Chicago's South Side and West Side are just like North Philadelphia and West Philadelphia, yet everybody adores Chicago while they sneer at Philadelphia. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Valley Forge
Washington's Crossing and New Hope, PA
The Poconos
Lancaster County and Amish country
Kennett Square (Longwood Gardens + mushroom growing)
Jim Thorpe, PA
Cape May, NJ
Fair enough. I actually like Philly a lot, I really do. It's hard for a Bostonian not to as they are peer cities in many ways. We could battle it out further, as I much prefer the sandy shores of Cape Cod, rocky coast of Maine, lakes of NH over the rolling green hills of PA or Jersey Shore. We couldo go in circles like a dog chasing its own tail but we're both expressing mere opinions. I just needed to call you out on the chowda and beans remark (honestly who in Boston really feasts on baked beans, nobody I know) as you summed up Boston's culinary scene was very off the mark and vastly underestimated based on a corny chiche.
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Haha while I applaud your post sir the google maps car must have driven through the Italian Market either early in the morning or later in the afternoon when everyone is closing shop....this is not what it looks like during the day. It is actually very active during the day.
Plus the vibrancy of Pat's and Geno's at the Southern end of the Italian Market
Those two are always packed
I think the North End still has more activity though I do appreciate South Philly nonetheless. They're both better than Manhattan's Little Italy, that's for sure.
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I have a question to ask those of you who criticize Philadelphia for its problems with crime and poverty: do you like Chicago? If you do, then you're kind of a hypocrite, because Chicago has the same problems with crime and poverty that Philadelphia does. And no, Philadelphia doesn't have those problems to a larger degree than Chicago does either. In fact, the nice part of Chicago is pretty much limited to a strip of land from the University of Chicago north through the Loop into the North Side, no more than two miles from the lake. Outside that area, Chicago is actually pretty ****ty. Chicago's South Side and West Side are just like North Philadelphia and West Philadelphia, yet everybody adores Chicago while they sneer at Philadelphia. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't really judge Philly based on those areas, Boston has its ugly side too (Ashmont, Mattapan, Roxbury, Chelsea, Lynn), most cities do.
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Fair enough. I actually liek Philly a lot, I really do. It's hard for a Bostonian not to as they are peer cities in many ways. We could battle it out further, as I much prefer the sandy shores of Cape Cod or rocky coast of Maine or lakes of NH to the rolling green hills of PA or Jersey Shore. I also think the North End still has more activity though I do appreciate South Philly nonetheless. We could on circles like a dog chasing its own tail and we're both expressing mere opinions. I just needed to call you out on the the chowda and beans remark (honestly who in Boston really feasts on baked beans, nobody I know) as your remark on Boston's culinary scene was very off the mark and vastly underestimated based on a corny chiche.
That wasn't me lol. I think the was GTL_Urbanlover08 or whatever. I certainly did not make that remark. I love Boston almost as much as I love Philly haha... and they really almost exactly the same except Philly is a rougher around the edges. It really comes down to preference and opinion with Boston and Philly since they are almost identical.
Boston and Philly certainly each have their own uniqueness but they are probably the two most similar cities in this country who both preserved their history so well.
On the North End being more vibrant I can't comment on that... I haven't been back to Boston in so so long and I need to return as soon as possible. I was just showing you the Italian Market usually isn't dead like it seems on google maps.... plus Philly has WAY more vibrant areas than the Italian Market i.e. Old City, South Street, Chestnut Street, Walnut Street, South Broad (avenue of the arts), Rittenhouse Square, University City, Northern Liberties, Fairmount/Art Museum Area, Passyunk Ave, Main Street Manayunk, Germantown Ave in Chestnut Hill etc. etc.
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The look similar. Philadelphia's downtown is considerably livelier than Boston's. In fact calling Boston "desolate" is an euphemism.
I would expect Philly to seem livelier since it has a larger city and metro population... but I digress. That certainly does not make Boston desolate in any way shape or form. Anyone saying so has never been there.
Huh??? Philly has just as many good neighborhoods as Boston, if not more. Philly has more "slums" because it's a bigger city!! Philly is closer to New York and DC than Boston is and PA has better looking nature than New England and we also are close to the ocean with 24-hour Atlantic City. Philly has better food, just search for restaurants. And we got more stuff than just "chow-dah" and baked beans, and not to mention the Amish country. You know that on Travel and Leisure Philly is rated higher than Boston.
I am going to assume this post was done so as a joke. Because who could take this serious?
I have been to Boston's waterfront and North End a few times. One time the North End was almost empty on a Saturday afternoon. Also when I walked from downtown back to my hostel in the museum of fine arts area the streets were pitch dark.
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