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Old 01-04-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Hey boxy..... I get it.... believe it or not they taught all that there stuff in them thar schools way up north too... it was just as you have outlined... in detail.... in the classes more commonly known as "American History".
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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Sheesh. Who knew a simple question would open such a can of worms.

I think I'm sorry I asked!
Don't be sorry!

It is an interesting question and one that, obviously, raises some debatable, maybe, sensitive issues.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:11 AM
 
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Hey boxy..... I get it.... believe it or not they taught all that there stuff in them thar schools way up north too... it was just as you have outlined... in detail.... in the classes more commonly known as "American History".
He's not saying peopel up North don't know what a palntation, it just doesn't carry the same emotional resonance and baggage as it does down south where the plantations actually were.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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OK... so now I'm confused.... some said there is no historical "baggage" and some say there "IS" historical baggage.... what a conundrum.

All I know for sure is we moved here, along with "approximately" a gazillion others before us and many more to come I'm sure..... and we are happy here and I couldn't care less what occurred or did not occur on land in the area 150 years ago.... and if the place wasn't called a plantation we would have come anyway..... AND I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that the great majority of those gazillions that came before us couldn't care less either..... just my thought though.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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He's not saying peopel up North don't know what a palntation, it just doesn't carry the same emotional resonance and baggage as it does down south where the plantations actually were.
Actually, I got the opposite inference: that Southerners know that "plantations" refer to "large estates" and the term is associated with luxury and a good life (in a quaint, antiquated sense), while it sounded like (some) Northerners hear the term and immediately think "Oh no, they are trivializing slavery!" because a lot of Northerners still think Southerners "are still fighting the Civil War" and condone(d) slavery.

I'm not aware of any "emotional baggage" with the term here. One of the nicest hotels in (outside of) Raleigh for years was called the Plantation Inn.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:05 PM
 
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I think it really depends on who you're talking to and their background. Growing up in Coastal Carolina, and taking field trips to places like Foscue Plantation and seeing the basement where they'd chain slaves up or the Crockett-Miller Slave quarters where 22 people were housed in 24x17 foot room. For me when I hear plantation the first thing that comes to mind are large Antebellum farms fielded by slaves.

But hey, what could be more "luxurious" than having slaves? It seems even the plantatios themselves want to put forth that face of "luxury rural living".

Welcome to the official website of the Foscue Plantation located in Pollocksville, NC just ten miles south of New Bern.
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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I understand that most "plantation" developments were just farm lands and were never associated with any type of plantation--I think Wakefield is on such misnomer.

It sounds really good to transplants I suppose?
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Old 01-07-2012, 03:06 AM
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Location: Greenville, NC
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It just sounds like a name to me. I don't conger up images of anything. Kinda like calling it Richard's Estates or Richard's Colony. It's just a name. The name is popular right now. It will pass.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Housing subdivisions are large tracts of land consisting entirely of newly-built residences whereas A plantation is a long artificially established forest, farm or estate, where crops are grown for sale, often in distant markets rather than for local on-site consumption.
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Old 01-17-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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Wow. "Plantation" with reference to a new community is just being used to name a subdivision. Whether it's a master-planned community (golf courses, clubhouses/pavilions, schools, etc), a golf course community or just a regular subdivision will take some research.

It is truly amazing how people will grasp at straws to take a conversation in a completely ridiculous direction.
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