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Considering the number of threads the OP posts on this subject, I'm wondering if Wavelength is:
A) an engineer, doctor or accountant and truly wants to help future students
B) a holder of a degree in the liberal arts (non STEM) and has a good job from this degree and wants to maintain his/her hold on the market
C) a holder of a degree in the liberal arts (non STEM) and does not have a job in his/her chosen field and thus disgruntled and wants to hate on these majors
D) a non degreed person who just doesn't understand the value of any degree that s/he doesn't come directly in contact with
E) a non degreed person who just hates on the college educated
F) someone who really does care about any of it but really likes pushing buttons
Well, I have two degrees, both of them stem. So that eliminates B-E.
I think it is a very good idea for people to warn future college students not to pursue worthless degrees. I will agree that there are other jobs besides STEM available. Just do your homework. Also, there is nothing wrong with going into the trades. Again, do your homework.
In a few months, the next generation of college students are going to begin classes. We all need to do our part to ensure that they don't waste time or money pursuing worthless degrees which will leave them with huge debts and low wage jobs that provide them with no hopes of repaying those debts.
Remember kids. Think engineering, medical doctor, accounting and other such fruitful career paths.
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Not everyone needs a STEM degree or choose the trades to be "happy"....
A motivated student with a humanities degrees is just as likely to find success and happiness in life, particularly if they are doing something they love not something their parents think they should do...
I think it is a very good idea for people to warn future college students not to pursue worthless degrees. I will agree that there are other jobs besides STEM available. Just do your homework. Also, there is nothing wrong with going into the trades. Again, do your homework.
Who decides what is worthless??? Have you investigated all the possible career opportunities available to someone with a supposedly "worthless" degree???
Study after study has shown that a college graduate, any college graduate with any degree, will out earn the high school graduate over a lifetime. If someone doesn't want to be an engineer, doctor or plumber but would like to teach, perform social work or write children's books for a living then they should follow their passion.
There is clearly nothing wrong with going into the trades for someone who really, really wants to pursue those jobs. The constant romanticizing of "trades" on a college message board always intrigues me though...
How many of the folks here who keep pushing the "trades" ever worked in the "trades" themselves???
Most "trades" are demanding, physical,potentially dangerous jobs....jobs that need to be done but not ones I would ever push on my children...
My dad was a tradesman and he never wanted any of his children following in his footsteps...
I hate idiotic threads such as this one. Most people without STEM degrees have gone on to have very good, high-paying careers. Heck, my degree was in English and, thirty years later, I will stack up my salary and career accomplishments up against any of the people who, in college, told me "Pshaw, good luck with a degree in THAT." I have more fun and, chances are, I earn considerably more money.
I've always tried to understand the motivation behind the people who start these threads. Behind that preening self-congratulation has to be some really serious insecurity.
Who decides what is worthless??? Have you investigated all the possible career opportunities available to someone with a supposedly "worthless" degree???
Study after study has shown that a college graduate, any college graduate with any degree, will out earn the high school graduate over a lifetime. If someone doesn't want to be an engineer, doctor or plumber but would like to teach, perform social work or write children's books for a living then they should follow their passion.
There is clearly nothing wrong with going into the trades for someone who really, really wants to pursue those jobs. The constant romanticizing of "trades" on a college message board always intrigues me though...
How many of the folks here who keep pushing the "trades" ever worked in the "trades" themselves???
Most "trades" are demanding, physical,potentially dangerous jobs....jobs that need to be done but not ones I would ever push on my children...
My dad was a tradesman and he never wanted any of his children following in his footsteps...
I believe the job market decides what degrees are worthless. I also believe I did say in my post that not everyone had to go into STEM. As far as the trades go, if people aren't college material this could be a good option. Yes, they are dangerous and demanding, hence not for everyone.
Amazing how every single reply is based on the assumption that everyone is going to get a degree.
Did any of you ever consider the possibility of not going to college at all? It seems that the brain washing of modern grade schooling is quite strong these days.
Funny, but my post ... the first response BTW ... had absolutely zero to do with any assumption about getting a degree at all. My post was about what an incredible blowhard AH the commentator is ... That isn't you, is it? Keep in mind that perception is about 90% the ability to persuade. And, if the viewer can't even stomach watching you ... much less listening to what you have to say ... you have a problem. So, my opinion on the value of an advanced non-STEM degree has absolutely nothing to do with my reaction to the video.
Not really, chiefly because I didn't start the thread in the first place. In fact, if the original post wasn't discussing the worthlessness of any degree that isn't in science or engineering, it wouldn't have come up at all.
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I also believe I did say in my post that not everyone had to go into STEM. As far as the trades go, if people aren't college material this could be a good option. Yes, they are dangerous and demanding, hence not for everyone.
