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Old 06-03-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: The Midwest
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So, I must ask. Should anyone NOT interested in STEM just not go to college at all?
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Old 06-03-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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Does not even give any real advice at all, and then makes a video promoting a book. His other videos is more or less the same thing. He makes some good arguments, but also says bull crap as well.

I know what he is getting at, but he is also saying bs, in between the lines.
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Old 06-03-2014, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto, CA
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Yes - this ^
It's also preposterous to say or imply that those who have a degree other than STEM would have been better off not going to college and/going the trade school route.
Even a basket weaving degree is useful if someone needs a basket.
There you have it, guys. Dropping $50k - $100k and 4 years of your life on a basket weaving degree is a great idea because someday, someone might need a basket.

How did you come up with that? That's such genius!
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:48 PM
 
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There you have it, guys. Dropping $50k - $100k and 4 years of your life on a basket weaving degree is a great idea because someday, someone might need a basket.

How did you come up with that? That's such genius!
Or perhaps after getting into a basket weaving company that requires a degree, that person then went off and started their own company using their expertise in basket weaving and easily hit 6 digit income within a few years...none of which would have been possible without that degree in the first place....how genius is your assumption now?

A degree isn't everything or an end all/be all, but if you actually looked at the number of high level government officials with a degree in something as mundane as history, you'd be greatly surprised.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto, CA
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Or perhaps after getting into a basket weaving company that requires a degree, that person then went off and started their own company using their expertise in basket weaving and easily hit 6 digit income within a few years...none of which would have been possible without that degree in the first place....how genius is your assumption now?

A degree isn't everything or an end all/be all, but if you actually looked at the number of high level government officials with a degree in something as mundane as history, you'd be greatly surprised.
You do realize that the majority of basket weaving is done by factory workers in China, right? And those factory worker positions not only don't require a basket weaving degree, they don't require any form of formal education what-so-ever.

And why would you need a basket weaving degree to start a basket weaving company? Did bill gates have a software engineering degree? How about Zuckerberg, Michael Dell, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, or Steve Jobs?

Are you seriously going to argue that someone needs a four year degree to weave baskets? Or that such a degree is going to open up any kind of career opportunities?
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:36 PM
 
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College/university was never meant to be a place for job training, but rather a place where you become an educated person and develop those critical thinking faculties. Whether you end up in a minimum wage job or not is immaterial to the true and intended utility of a degree. Simply put, if you want job training, you go to community college.
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Old 06-03-2014, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto, CA
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College/university was never meant to be a place for job training, but rather a place where you become an educated person and develop those critical thinking faculties. Whether you end up in a minimum wage job or not is immaterial to the true and intended utility of a degree. Simply put, if you want job training, you go to community college.
Most people that go to college will end up paying a substantial amount for housing and tuition. Why would anyone pay all that money if not for career advancement?

If you want to learn, simply for the sake of learning, there are many free routes that one could take, including auditing college courses.
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:53 AM
 
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How did you come up with that? That's such genius!
I went to college.

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You do realize that the majority of basket weaving is done by factory workers in China, right? And those factory worker positions not only don't require a basket weaving degree, they don't require any form of formal education what-so-ever.

And why would you need a basket weaving degree to start a basket weaving company? Did bill gates have a software engineering degree? How about Zuckerberg, Michael Dell, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, or Steve Jobs?

Are you seriously going to argue that someone needs a four year degree to weave baskets? Or that such a degree is going to open up any kind of career opportunities?
First the people you brought up are petty much the exception not the rule.
Second there are many artists with a four year degree making a living off their artwork. Basket weaving as much as you seem to detest anything non engineering is a form of art so yes they can go to college for that and then use the skills learned to make a living.
You keep asking the same questions over and over again and that I wonder about your comprehension skills.
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Old 06-04-2014, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto, CA
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I went to college.
Must have been a liberal arts major.

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First the people you brought up are petty much the exception not the rule.
I suppose the six figure income basket weavers are the rule?

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Second there are many artists with a four year degree making a living off their artwork.
Would you mind posting a few Linkedin links to some professional basket weavers?

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More meaningless babble...
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Old 06-04-2014, 06:10 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Most people that go to college will end up paying a substantial amount for housing and tuition. Why would anyone pay all that money if not for career advancement?

If you want to learn, simply for the sake of learning, there are many free routes that one could take, including auditing college courses.
I agree. College is for career advancement. You can learn for free.
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